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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-12-03 11:53 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 174

raking in the lootWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: Proof of shedding and a very concerning possibility

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2024-12-08 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Can't remember if I shared this detail before. Once in a while, I would go onto the Alibaba website and search for VIM. Get all kinds of weird hit due to censorship... then one time I managed to get legit hit. Corresponded with the seller for a while, and despite hefty shipping costs, I could get the raw powder, and then make my own pill ,say 100 pills of 5mg each, for a $1 or so. Similar commercial quantities were retailing from $8-20 per bottle. I was extremely tempted to pull the trigger, but even a 2kg shipment of VIM would raise all kinds of red flags and likely prompt the system to check all my subsequent shipments. So sadly had to pass.
kallianeira: (burnt creek bank)

Re: Proof of shedding and a very concerning possibility

[personal profile] kallianeira 2024-12-08 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)

Yes, I remember your mentioning that source and its cost effectiveness.
And went to look there. Since everything VIM I could find seemed to be in commercial quantities (>=1kg) it would be subject to like concerns.

HOWEVER, that other super-miraculous chemical of multiple uses which a Midwestern Doctor has been featuring in a recent series of articles (hint: begins with D, ends with O ,has MS in the middle) is ridiculously cheap on that site and can be got by the litre, which is not so unusual given its reputation in equine health applications. Here it is round $100/litre.

- iridescent scintillating elver

Re: Proof of shedding and a very concerning possibility

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2024-12-09 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that D_O thingie is also ridiculously cheap. I trust MWD implicitly and had managed to source it a few months back.... but only started using it more in the past couple of weeks as friends had been asking me. Their own experiences was mixed, and I understand that as with public substacks where the doctors talk about alternatives, some of the dosages were a bit more vague than it should be in order to protect themselves.

My own initial experience was.. hmm... nothing's really happening but the pain levels from the lung cancer I was treating meant that I now had a good reason to try and figure out the dosage that would help in my case... applied on my back 3X a day seems effective - and yes, the sleep quality has been greatly enhanced. My wife who did the application via her hands - also had great sleep that same night, so it actually got in mainly via finger exposure. Just a fwiw.
kallianeira: (burnt creek bank)

Re: Proof of shedding and a very concerning possibility

[personal profile] kallianeira 2024-12-09 09:41 am (UTC)(link)

I hadn't heard re D_O and sleep. That would be a multiplication of miracles.

I can say that in my immediate family, 5 of 7 have a norrible genetic condition of the hands called Dupuytrens' Contracture (even females, and both parents, which is unusual). Me, having been applying the liquid to sore joints and scars for several years, I have no signs of the disease. I am also now using it in my eyes to find out if it helps remove cataracts. If I could bear to drink it I'd doubtless be crowing that everything was cured... of course, these are personal anecdotes only.

iridescent scintillating elver