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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-12-03 11:53 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 174

raking in the lootWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't pretend to know anything but let's not forget that a lot of these health insurers are starting to loose a lot of money and there is some pressure to tell the truth and shift the heath where it belongs: big pharma.

As a rule when is personal vendetta, people go after the person that administrated the shot.

This bit seems important.

What follows is pure speculation and take it as such


A crime is investigated by motive, means and opportunity.

Let's take them one by one.

Possible motive:

1. Personal vengeance of someone who has been hurt or has someone in the family hurt by the


2. Prevent what he was going to say at the investor conference.
“UnitedHealthGroup was scheduled to start its annual Investor conference at 8 a.m. Wednesday, according to the company”

As far as I understand the UnitedHealthGroup is the biggest group. If he was going to say something, the meeting with the investors seems like the right place to say it.


In terms of means and opportunity, looks like a hired hit.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
At rintrah.nl, a blog sometimes referenced here, a working hypothesis is that the vaccines stunt the immune response just enough that the virus is "accepted" by the body and allowed to work its magic, at least partially. All the while the body doesn't react too badly. That's what I understand but I'm not a specialist, I may not get it right.
It follows that the jabs, instead of putting billions to sleep in a matter of weeks (as they obviously don't do), create a situation where the virus stays with us humans way more that it should have, and more easily reinfects (repeatedly). The damage is spread out over time if you will, AND I'm not even mentioning the short, medium and long term side-effects. AND the virus mutates
It's a lot to take in, a catastrophe, like we did everything wrong. There are and will be consequences for a while.
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Re: Fermented foods

[personal profile] scotlyn 2024-12-05 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Please note that I have corrected my advice (why you should never accept random advice without checking it!).

The ratio is 1/50 by weight (salt/whatever).

My memory played me false by "remembering" this number as 5% and not 2% by weight. Please take note.
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[personal profile] chickadeevt 2024-12-05 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Transcriberb,

It is tough here, and lonely. No one in my personal life seems to think the way I do about these issues. JMGs websites have been a lifeline*. This whole mess gave me an extra hard shove toward hermit-hood. VT is a good place to be a hermit.

I didn't know about the VT Emergency Forum ARHM. I will read the links you gave - thank you for those, and also your regular posts here! There are so many interesting things out there that I wouldn't see otherwise.

*I offer heartfelt thanks to you JMG, and am sorry for your heavy losses this year.
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Re: It ain't over til it's over

[personal profile] escorcher 2024-12-05 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
UK currently has 3.5 times more people hospitalised with flu now than this time last year.
🤔 Hmmmm...

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-350-rise-in-people-hospitalised-with-flu-as-nhs-faces-quad-demic-13267331

Re: Letting go, moving on

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like your description of this! I am aware of what you described, but the way you've presented it was so succinct, that it helped sharpen my own understanding of the relationship between core beliefs and emotions.

Rather than the feel-and-let-it-pass approach, it seems effective to do the feel-and-find-the-source approach; which requires fully feeling an emotion in order to assess where it comes from. To use your metaphor, it's almost like you can't find the source of the leak in your basement until it's flooded, or even that you can't find it unless it has flooded.

Proof of shedding and a very concerning possibility

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-12-05 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Kevin McKernan posted an important thread on X https://x.com/Kevin_McKernan/status/1863971609020629364 It is about a recently published article that among other things shows that exosomes contain spike. Exosomes are nano-sized fluid filled sacks that are exhaled and secreted via the skin.

In a recent interview Kevin also stated that his team found spike in tissue from cancerous tumors, even a year after the last jab. It looks like in an undetermined amount of cases the cells are permanently changed so that they produce spike permanently.

This leads to the next question: do these exosomes contain replication competent plasmids (pieces of DNA)? If so, we have a major mess at our hands. In that case cells can be changed to produce spike permanently and this can be transmitted to non-vaxxed people.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess nobody has told them that frontline doctors are no longer trusted either? That many of them were incentivized in various ways to lie for the corporations and the government? No? Ok. What they don't know can't hurt them, I guess.

I'm not sure where they go to snooker the populace these days. Rebuilding trust. That's funny. Good luck with that.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
They say something was written on one of the casings left by the shooter. Oddly enough, they're not saying what. I'm thinking revenge killing.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The thread on the news subreddit is something to behold. More "Removed by Reddit" posts than I've ever seen before on one thread. (Reddit general admins, rather than moderators of the individual community, remove posts when they break Reddit-wide rules such as by supporting violence.)

Lots of speculation that this was someone whose life or loved one's life was destroyed by this insurance company. Lots of people saying if they were the witness, they "didn't see nuthin'." Lots of comments saying "This was only a matter of time."

Lots of people sharing their stories of terrible treatment by health insurance companies in general and UHC in specific (it's infamous for being especially bad). For example:

"United sent a letter to my daughter explaining that they denied a claim for a one night stay in the hospital that literally saved her life. Also, my daughter was 4 years old at the time. The letter was addressed to her."

"UHC denied my patient's prescription for a Lovenox bridge so her Coumadin could be held prior to surgery. The reason? I prescribed it twice daily instead of once daily, which is the standard of care for a Lovenox bridge. I was so pissed off I just paid for the medication out of pocket myself and gave it to my patient. It was $12.... They were totally okay with the possibility of her suffering a stroke or major thromboembolic event to save TWELVE DOLLARS."

"United Healthcare refused to cover any of my labor and delivery bill because the doctor who delivered her wasn’t in my network. As if you can choose when/where you go into labor and select the OBGYN that comes in the room. I spent months appealing and then they kept saying they didn’t receive the paperwork I sent multiple times in multiple different ways. I would have laughed out loud if I saw [this headline] at that time."

Then there's this: https://prospect.org/health/2024-03-10-unitedhealth-exploits-emergency-change-ransomware-oregon/

"The Change Health (owned by United) outage brought the healthcare industry to a standstill in Feb when they suffered a huge security breach. The systems affected included clearinghouses that providers use to submit claims to insurance companies (not just United), systems that relay prescriptions to pharmacies, and perhaps most damaging, payment systems.

"The slimiest thing in all of this was that many small providers went under because they couldn't get paid for services for weeks, some months. So United came in and bought the providers for pennies on the dollar."

Now the thread is locked (probably because of the many comments needing to be removed by Reddit).

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Re: A Dialogue To Make Your Head Explode

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
sharing this because i know some here have mentioned this about wifi..

Schoolgirl, 15, found hanged after 'developing an allergic reaction to the WiFi at her school'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3339511/Schoolgirl-15-hanged-developing-allergic-reaction-WiFi-school.html
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[personal profile] jenniferkobernik 2024-12-05 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I just saw the the current administration is floating a preemptive presidential pardon of those who have committed “no crimes” but have been “tageted by the right” including Fauci. Honestly if he gets a preemptive blanket pardon without investigation or trial I won’t be surprised if he ends up dead. I would much rather see justice done under rule of law, but we’ll see.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
A terrifying new flu-like disease has killed 179 people — mostly teens — and health officials have no idea what it is

https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/a-mystery-disease-has-killed-179-mostly-teenagers-in-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo/

they really are trying hard...

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
“Brought to you by Pfizer” - Bioaccumulation report showing where the lipid nano particles and all their contents are being delivered. Information released under FOI:

"Nonclinical Evaluation Report BNT162b2 [mRNA] COVID-19 vaccine (COMIRNATYTM)"

1. Liver - 24.29
2. Spleen - 23.35
3. Adrenal Glands - 18.21
4. Ovaries - 12.26
5. Bone Marrow - 3.77
6. Small Intestine - 1.472
7. Lymph Node (mesenteric) - 1.366
8. Large intestine - 1.34
9. Lung - 1.09
10. Thyroid - 1.00
11. Lymph node (mandibular) - 0.727
12. Pituitary gland - 0.694
13. Bone (femur) - 0.687
14. Pancreas - 0.599
15. Heart 0.55
16. Uterus - 0.456
17. Kidneys - 0.42
18. Bladder - 0.365
19. Thymus - 0.331
20. Testes (males) - 0.320
21. Salivary glands - 0.264
22. Skin - 0.253
23. Stomach - 0.215
24. Muscle - 0.192
25. Adipose tissue - 0.181
26. Prostate (males) - 0.170
27. Eyes - 0.112
28. Spinal cord - 0.112
29. Brain - 0.068

https://xcancel.com/Humanspective/status/1864396399519125817#m

screenshot of foia'd doc at link

Re: It ain't over til it's over

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I never got sicker than from a flu vaccine. I'd rather have the flu.
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[personal profile] transcriberb 2024-12-05 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi chickadeevt

I totally hear you.

My suspicion is that there are more of us who didn't fall for the con than it would seem, but we're hard to identify since we don't go around with a sign on our foreheads or a yellow star on our sleeves.

One reason (of many reasons) that I transcribe the videos is that I feel so heartened to find people (even if they've passed away, such as Dr. Oskoui) who had some common sense and some heart and were willing to speak out early on.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
JUST IN: Trump says he pulled Chad Chronister’s nomination for DEA chief because “I did not like what he said to my pastors and other supporters.”

Chad arrested a pastor for holding Church services during Covid.

https://xcancel.com/libsoftiktok/status/1864357197569798251#m

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Some good news today:

Ireland’s Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly, who declared “War” on Unvaccinated Irish people in 2021, just LOST his seat in Ireland’s General Election.

https://xcancel.com/CilComLFC/status/1864056840771801438#m

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Watch for legislation in Congress that quietly slips into an unrelated bill a short provision granting blanket amnesty to anyone who mandated vaccination for employees, students, workers, patients, contractors, or patrons.

This will be the first move.

https://xcancel.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1864448612857516235#m

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
BREAKING: President Trump has announced that all military members who were discharged for refusing the COVID mandate will be reinstated and receive full back pay, along with a formal apology from the United States Government.

- JD Vance

https://xcancel.com/BusyDrT/status/1864341392337838123#m

Dutch mortality and waiting time statistics

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-12-05 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Mortality statistics from the Netherlands are shaping up to be quite odd this year. The year 2024 had up and to the third quarter the highest exess mortality of all Coof years, but the expected increase of mortality in Q4 (autumn/winter) is actually mild and lower than previous years. All in all this is still the deadliest year if we look at the period Jan 1st - Dec 1st, but in other years the excess mortality was much higher in November, so end of year this could be different.

Don't ask me to explain this pattern, I really don't know. My best guess is that we have a structurally higher baseline of mortality which means that life expectance has permanently gone down to a lower level.

I also looked at waitingtimes for medical specialists, diagnostic tests and medical treatments.
Perhaps most telling are gthe waitingtimes per medical specialist. The average waiting time is 2-3% increased but there are significant differences. The discipines that have increased the most (from Sept 2023 to Dec 2024) are lungs, immunology, oncology, neurology and ENT. Cardiology has stayed the same after a sharp increase in 2021-22.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The Rise and Fall of Western Science

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-rise-and-fall-of-western-science/
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[personal profile] temporaryreality 2024-12-05 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
And I just saw a comment on NakedCapitalism by a JMG-reader with a better memory than me: The civil war in Retrotopia starts with the mob-murder of a CEO.

If current administration provides a blanket pardon like that, rule of law is toast and an age of ... barbarity ensues. (Not that one man, of a small coterie, profiting off the suffering and deaths of hundred of thousands via bureaucratic manipulation of financial carrots and sticks masquerading as "healthcare access" isn't barbarous...)

Re: Fermented foods

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes got it thank you!

Re: Fermented foods

(Anonymous) 2024-12-05 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Milkyway! I appreciate all the detail you’ve given as well! I had never even heard of a special pot or weights for fermenting foods. And I am learning from you and all other contributors about how salt is used (and how much!). Thank you, and all others who added input! Tamar

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