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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 172
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
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With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
'Virulence seems to be increasing
"So, they’re noticing in Italy that the case fatality rate is steadily climbing..." (now 3.3% from below 1% in August)
https://www.rintrah.nl/virulence-seems-to-be-increasing/
This is among those in hospital with a confirmed positive test - the hospitals are not full though and the infection rate amongst the general population doesn't seem that high. This notion of increased virulence does fit in with the idea the virus is becoming more immune evasive of particularly vixen induced antibodies. XEC and a newer fast growing variant LP.8.1 appear to be leading the way by introducing more and better placed glycans, according to Rintrah, which helps the virus evade antibodies. Is he onto something or just being paranoid?
Well, I'm watching fairly closely and yes, it would be worse for heavily vixenated with misfiring immune systems. Like these posts of JMG's (172 - really???!!!) this situation remains a developing one, even virally speaking.
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The objective is always to generate fear to justify another set of jabs for whatever it is they're spruiking.
Vax side effects include the millions of unhealthy children from the 72 shot childhood schedule.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:
"I just want to make this clear. I don't want to take vaccines away from people. I don't want to impose my choices on the American public. If vaccines are working for you, you ought to be able to get them. And I'll make sure that happens. But people should have informed choice. So they should have good science that tells them the cost and the benefits of these products, particularly since they're being ordered to use them."
"76 million kids a year are required to use them. and they're healthy children. So it's the only medical product that's given to healthy people. You want a product like that to be extra solid, to make sure there's no risk, because you can take, you know, there's certain risks that you'll take if you're sick to get better. Of course. But if you're not sick, and you shouldn't be required to take a product unless it is iron-clad, unless you know what the... you know, what all the costs and benefits are."
"And the problem with vaccines is that they were originally introduced by the Public Health Service, which is one of the five military services. That's why there's a surgeon general. And the Public Health Service introduced them and pushed them as a national security defense against biological attacks on our country. So they wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us with anthrax with some other biological agent They could quickly formulate a vaccine and then deploy it to 220 million American civilians without regulatory impediments."
"A normal Medical product takes about eight years to get to market because it has to go through double-blind placebo controlled trials And you need to see long-term effects. There are many effects On every medical product that have long diagnostic horizons long incubation periods They didn't want to go through that because they said it's going to be a national emergency. So instead of calling it a medicine, we're going to call it a biologic and we're going to exempt biologics from pre-licensing safety studies."
"So there's no vaccine on that schedule, that 72 vaccines, that has ever gone through a pre-licensing safety study placebo-controlled trial against a real placebo. And that's wrong because that means that nobody knows what the risk profiles are on these products. And nobody can tell you whether that product is averting more problems than it's causing."
"And what I will do, you know, if I'm given this job in the White House, is I'll make sure that those studies get done, that there are people on the panels that approve these products that are not loaded with conflicts of interest. So it's real science. disinterested people and that doctors and patients and Americans know exactly what the costs and benefits of every vaccine are and can make a rational decision."
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-20 05:18 am (UTC)(link)Re: 'Virulence seems to be increasing
Just, wow.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 02:08 am (UTC)(link)And all throughout the covid tyranny, the government and media were citing a string of nonsense mask studies to justify the mask mandates, when they could have just asked any expert in industrial masking about the efficacy of paper and cloth masks.
And then you have the lockdowns, all based on some computer model (i.e. GIGO). Ditto for the initial predictions of doom from the spread of covid, that never eventuated.
And vaccines, plenty of studies to show they are 100% safe and work to eliminate disease. Except the diseases they are supposed to prevent are still in circulation, and there are plenty of horror stories about vaccine injuries and deaths - even in the media. The fact that there has always been an anti-vaccination movement for the two hundred years that vaccines have existed, with a long string of people claiming injuries and deaths, should be enough information for anyone to conclude that vaccines have some serious problems and that all the studies behind vaccines are basically junk.
Too many people seem to think that some dodgy collection of studies are more valid than basic logic and real world practical experience, just because they come out of some prestigious institution.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)Einstein - gone.
Pasteur - gone.
Darwin - gone.
Wright Brothers are alright though 'cause even the little educated can understand what they're doing.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)Koch instead?
Funny how looking at this history you can start to see how we got in this pharma mess that now threatens like never before.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch%E2%80%93Pasteur_rivalry
Re: 'Virulence seems to be increasing
(Anonymous) 2024-11-20 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)brain-altering chemicals into you and alter your personality quite deliberately.
ha. But not far off I. don't think.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-22 02:42 am (UTC)(link)https://x.com/WomenAreReals/status/1858700370605973676
Let me present the "Vaginally Presenting Person" and "Non-Vaginally-Presenting Person"
As though we were carrying around ID photos of our bits to present to the front desk...
Re: 'Virulence seems to be increasing
And sometimes it isn't.
And unfortunately it all gets entwined in manipulation, power, fear, ignorance and even stupidity. More rarely there's malice involved too. Then we are left trying to sort out fact from fiction. But it ain't all fiction, unfortunately.
Basically I think you're being overly dismissive of the dangers of mass disease caused by microorganisms and yes, hitting a compromised terrain most often.
You already know my stance on germ theory so we don't need to go over that again.
I am pretty questioning of a lot of vixenation now where I wasn't before. We share that:)
Re: 'Virulence seems to be increasing
(Anonymous) 2024-11-20 03:25 am (UTC)(link)"So it may be that with fewer people getting infected right now in Italy, cases are more concentrated among more vulnerable people."
If you multiply the cases with fatalities, the number is nearly constant. So maybe people are dying at the same rate due to old age but are getting assigned covid.