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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-10-15 10:25 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 167

"fact checking"We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-15 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I can work live events any more. Recently it's taken my immune system days to recover, and the final one last week had me in bed up until yesterday with flu-like symptoms. It's sad because it was a fun job and scary because I don't have a solid replacement yet, but instead of building up my immunity this constant exposure to crowds seems to be doing the opposite. Even in higher doses the ivm doesn't seem to work any more, or at least it can't keep up with today's viral load.

Not sure how many others are experiencing this as well, but if it's VAIDS then the industry is going to be dead soon anyway.

KVD

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-15 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I get myself exposed to random crowds every week, Im at the congregate lunch/feeding event in town and other such with hundreds of people crowded together, I take no supplements or ivermectin or anything and I never get sick with anything -- so I think it is YMMV

Atmospheric River

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
16 hour days involving thousands of people and heavy manual labor with multiple vaccinated/symptomatic local and international crew who just got off a plane from various destinations is a bit different than your neighborhood potluck. If it’s VAIDS you’ll be experiencing what I’ve been going through soon enough.

KVD

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hang in there KVD!!!

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-15 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
WHat if it is not purely physical/material ? Do you do any natural magic protections like the red bag with bent neil slt ? wash afterwards with tepid or cool water ? Do the sphere of protection or other similiar ?

Atmospheric River

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I perform daily banishing and wear a protective talisman which I regularly consecrate. These used to work just fine but are now both seem just barely enough to get me through the day. Conditions seem to have deteriorated since the really dark Sean Combs allegations started coming out. It could very well be that the karmic implications of eating from the same table as the industry insiders can no longer be ignored.

Re: vaids

[personal profile] fredsmith11 2024-10-15 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The live music industry is dying here. Events are being cancelled and failing all over in Australia. COVID permanently changed the "going out" landscape.

There are less people booking tickets, or booking them at the last minute, combined with a big ramp up in expenses to hold an event. Add in ever increasing bureaucratic compliance requirements too.

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. We had a pretty good run when things opened back up but now shows are increasingly "papered over" just so people don't see all the empty seats. The signs are all there. It's just difficult to admit and feels like I'm finally getting pushed out the door.

KVD

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry to hear you're having some challenges. May you find the healing that is best for you.

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks and hopefully you found yours as well.

KVD

Re: vaids

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2024-10-16 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I've posted on anti-shedding protocols a few times before, though I've also seen jabbed friends nodding along when I explained why it's critical that they really do protect themselves, then never implement anything and keep falling sick. VIM fixes or repairs the damage after shedding - you want to use the protocols to prevent the spike from doing the damage in the first place. Black seed oil (often taken with manuka honey) max 2X a day, nicotine patches, St John's wort. While there are other natural compounds which are anti-shedding, their efficacy is much less.. some combo of the 3 I mention, can be scaled up or down accordingly, takes care of the shedding.

You should also have a home blood sugar testing kit.... check your fasting glucose in the morning. If you're on the anti-shedding protocols and it wasn't strong enough, some spikes get through and you'll see it manifest as small jumps in your fasting blood sugar. Basically metabolic dysfunction has been triggered.

Caveat - with all the solar radiation coming through right now... there are days when my body feels like a train wreck and my blood sugar readings go into the prediabetes range. That's a separate issue where the pains can last 12 to 48 hours (for me) as the body absorbs all the new energies.

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-16 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for your suggestions. What finally got me over the hump this week was some nattokinaise, quercetin, and black seed oil I discovered in the cabinet. Bought it for my wife when she had long covid a couple years ago then completely forgot about it. So glad it was there because I was able to stop the bug from completely taking over my sinuses and getting really nasty. The ferrum phos also helped tremendously as well. I didn't take all that stuff this morning because I was feeling better and then had to jump back on the train as the afternoon rolled around and conditions started to deteriorate. Still not out of the woods yet.

KVD

Re: vaids

(Anonymous) 2024-10-18 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
DMSO got me over the long Covid hump.

Stubborn_ass, what's the role of St John's Wort in your protocol? I've used it a lot for skin stuff.

Re: vaids

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2024-10-19 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
AS discussed previously, because of its non-toxicity... when the shedding effects are very high (often evident as skin issues for my kids), they will take 2 pills every 2 to 3 hrs while in school. Yes, it's that bad, since it's getting past the nicotine patch, black seed oil etc. We try to scale back when possible, so as to keep more things (anti-shedding supplements) in reserve.

For example, Black seed oil - each table spoon is about 15ml... when the shedding load is manageable the kids only need to take it once before school. But if we figure the load has gone crazy again with more freshly jabbed kids, then they'll also take it again after coming back from school, but that's the max one should do with BSO.