![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
Entry tags:
Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 159
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
VIM
They don't seem to see the obvious, that big pharma has actually been actively suppressing it for decades (check out all the promising anti-c clinical trials using VIM from the 80s',90's, 00's etc and zero follow up), and then outright demonizing it during the coof period, and making up stories about folks in the midwest getting poisoned by it and lining up in droves at the hospital in the midwest (can't remember if it was Ohio or thereabouts).
So I finally got a chance to see the video of Yeadon, and it's a pretty slick, well-produced piece, great lighting in a symposium type setting with an audience etc. He bemoans that certain more well-known doctors have pushed VIM as a treatment for the coof.. but no no no, it's dangerous coz it can hurt fertility. Zero proof given, he doesn't get questioned seriously... and I'm thinking - so the doctors he's thinking of, like Dr Pierra Kory, who actually took the effort to write a book on VIM documenting his experiences using it, and the tons of studies done around the world showing efficacy, especially against the coof, has just recently been stripped of his licensing by some medical board.
There are too many other parallels to what is happening in other interlinked-spheres of activity going on around the world, basically a decaying/collapsing empire doing some last ditch hail marys, and even if they can't convince people, they can flood the information space with so much misinformation that people start to tune out automatically as they are wont to do. I'm guessing anyone new doing a search on VIM now will find pieces of Yeadon being pushed to the top of the search heap.... the whole fertility thing, like most of the major lifestock, and also people's precious expensive horses have been given VIM regularly for decades, has anyone heard of any fertility issues? I guess when they're making stuff up, the more bizarre it is, it's harder to refute initially as you think, they can't be that blatant in their lying, can they? We should know better by now of course, but the average normie still somewhat believes in the system.
Then I saw 2 more pieces, published in some obscure journals and loudly touted be newly anti-VIM 'freedom' activists... as previous weekly threads have discussed, the powers can be can get anything published so one has to look into the actual details of a study, rather than the headlines trumpeted. Anyways, the claim was that if people took VIM regularly, it 'may' alleviate the coof infection (so they're trying to gain currency by not going full bore VIM doesn't work for anything), but it may, just may, change the stomach lining that if you get money I mean monkeypox, then it will be a severe infection. Yes, that is really the claim that they're making. If anything, from my perspective, it just means that no matter what nasty gain of function stuff they're trying with the m-pox, VIM will probably do a semi-decent job against it.
Just as a reminder... Gates and Oxford funded a study on VIM which went on for 2 years, to try and proof that it doesn't work. They pulled the same stunt with HCQ and used a toxic dose (4X max known dosage) and used the headlines to stop HCQ from being used, even though the study was subsequently discredited. So they tried doing the same with VIM, and you can imagine what kind of crazy level dosages were used to try and find a toxic response... and then at the end of it, the trial was stopped and the excuse was that they ran out of VIM stocks. Erm... ok... so how much were they using towards the end, and what interesting illnesses did they accidentally find out that it cured? That, I really want to know. Anyways, point being, they couldn't get a toxic dosing for VIM, despite their best efforts.
Re: VIM
(Anonymous) 2024-08-21 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)I've had the feeling for a little while now that Dr Yeadon, who has done stalwart work in warning people over a harrowing few years, has started to tip into a degree of paranoia, suspecting, well, simply everything.
He seems very tired,is perhaps on the brink of despair due to a lack of public response and understanding, and responded very strangely to me with zero facts when I asked a very straightforward question a few months ago.
The strain of fighting a rather lonely battle?
Re: VIM
https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/dr-mercola-consulted-with-psychic-before-axing-top-executives
https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion
and more about the channeler of the entity if you can stomach it: https://vivayalive.com/guides/5408/kai-clay
Good grief.
Re: VIM
1 - I've seen a number of YT channels where folks talk to channellers or people show themselves channelling. On the surface level, the message tends to be enchanting and mesmerizing.. oh if only life could be like that. I can't remember if it was on one of the weekly threads here or the main blog, where we discussed how it was a bad idea in general to be doing that and all the myriad reasons.. however that doesn't reduce the seductiveness of such messages. At one point, they even froze Mercola's bank accounts, including that of his company so that he had problems even paying his employees. Imagine the stress that put him under, as it's a tactic that's been used against a number of real freedom activists all over (e.g. Canadian truckers). It's much easier to fall prey to such channellers then, as one is desperately searching for answers, any answers.
When I watch such videos over the course of a few months, I get a sense of slight unease, that there's something slightly off, but can't pinpoint exactly what it is. Then another major happening occurs, e.g. start of the Ukraine war, and those channelers would make a few snide comments and it would be pretty much a close echo of western MSM narratives. If they were truly enlightened, they would see through all the obvious lies and propaganda. Upon some reflection, most of those popular channelers had also studiously avoided talking about the coof. Sure they may have wanted to avoid being demonetized or shadow-banned on YT, but now I bet if they had done so, they would have shown their real colors much earlier.
2 - I've been quietly advising folks in my freedom group to stop posting or comment on social media for 3+ months now. I just had the gut sense that the system will lash out in unpredictable ways in it's last throes, even when one thinks they are a low-value target for the system. At this point, you can't convince a normie to start awakening and detoxing, if they haven't already begun the process on their own. So self-protection requires extreme prudence in any social media postings. With what is happening to certain 'freedom' activist folks and their 180 degree turn, it has too many shades to MK Ultra... you'd think, why would the system bother at this point? But we're no longer dealing with a rational system, looking to use its system-control resources efficiently... hence, we can still read those social media posts (e.g. yet another unusual died suddenly), but refrain from giving them a convenient target as much as possible at this time.
Re: VIM
(Anonymous) 2024-08-25 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)Speaking to your second point— I wholly agree. I was going to write a longer note on this, but this news suffices:
Telegram CEO Pavel Durov, was arrested at an airport near Paris
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/elon-musk-on-telegram-founder-pavel-durov-s-arrest-executed-for-liking-a-meme/ar-AA1pnqB8
Telegram has a lot of vaccine injury and other counter-covid-narrative posts. But I never signed up for telegram because it requires a telephone number. Not handing that over, no way.
In general, my gut sense for a while now has been to stay wide away from Big Tech social media. Social media isn't one size fits all, though. For some, some of these platforms may make sense, I get that. For me they definitely do not. I've had a bad feeling about them for a long while now. And it seems we're headed into some very strange waters.
Cetiosaurus
Re: VIM
Re: VIM
(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)Re: VIM
(Anonymous) 2024-08-22 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)I feel that once we start defending characters and rallying around heroes the plot has been lost. I can't believe that a product can be so miraculous with no tradeoffs.
The presuppositions of this product discussion is that there is a need to take the product against some novel virus. Which seems incredibly unlikely, a thing of science fiction. Our bodies and immune systems are well versed at dealing with anything they encounter through a system of recognizing "this is me" vs "this is not me".
Unlike bacteria that can replicate, it is helpful to remember that the myth around viruses being able to spread is suspect. They are not pattern integrities. They have no ability to spread as claimed.
Re: VIM
Also the trope that big pharma makes it, hence it's gotta be bad. In reality, a lot of US folks who used the FLCCC doctors to get VIM prescriptions found their pharmacies refusing to honour it, totally contravening the law as the pharamacists were effectively practicing medicine. Hence I know only of super-rich folks like Joe Rogan who had access to the official 'human' versions... pretty much everyone else had to jump through hoops. I'm all ears if you can give me just 1 example of the 'tradeoff' you mentioned. A real one, just one.
As they were rolling out the jabs in Singapore, there was an elderly lady who didn't want to take the jab, instinctively knew it wasn't good for her, but her daughter really insisted. Soon after, she developed bad side effects which resulted in overall deterioration of her health, looking like she would be on her deathbed soon. Through some church friends, they quietly russed up enough VIM, hoping that it would help her.... but it was already far too late. MSM coverage? VIM usage was the thing that caused her to become sick and ill... see how poisonous it is etc etc. The truth was known in the alt-forums, including screen shots of the elderly lady's sister chat messages who plaintaively asked her neice - how can she do that to her own mother and then lie about it all.
Re: VIM
(Anonymous) 2024-08-25 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)That story out of Singapore is so sad.
On my side of the globe I know a number of people who HEAVILY pressured their parents and their kids and everyone else to take the jabs, and to hate on "misinformation" spreaders and "anti-vaxxers." They've either figured it out that they got conned or they're going on something like jab #10 now. In either case, I don't think they're feeling too comfortable. Feeling uncomfortable: that makes people liable to say or do not very nice things.