Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 153

[ecosophia]

We are now winding up the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Population Immunity

[ecosophia]

That seems reasonable. As for seeing/not seeing the increased sickness, that's interesting, and in the absence of meaningful statistical information, potentially useful. It may be that something relatively local (variations in vaccine batches? Something else?) may be playing a role here.

Re: Population Immunity

[boccaccio]

I think population density also plays an important role. There seem to be various mechanisms that undermine the immune system (broad tolerance, T-cell depletion due to specific tolerance and multiple infections and the likely existence of super shedders) and when many people are packed together it makes it easier for pathogens to spread.

Somehow the overview above between brackets makes sense to me. It is not just the vaxxed but also the unvaxxed that need to be careful athough the unvexxed are better of

Re: Population Immunity

[(Anonymous)]

One relatively local variable that doesn't get much consideration in our scientific-materialism-fetishizing culture is the dramatic depletion of chi/energy/life force that inevitably occurs from voluntarily surrendering one's allegiance over to easily disprovable hypocrisies. In other words, the extreme emotional stress burden that lying to oneself inflicts. Given that we just lived through a globe-spanning pandemic of deceitful artifice, much celebrated by its own victims, the current siphoning away of life force could turn out to be much more dramatic than what we're used to.

Anyone's likelihood of succumbing to the addictive allure of that sanctimoniously insincere habit will tend to increase along with overexposure to the various craved goodies which that allegiance promises. Thus, living proximal to political and economic power hubs, whose celebrity classes competitively flaunt their imbalanced lifestyles, puts one at greater risk of becoming ill from lying to oneself. Of course, there are those people who have sufficient strength of character to dwell right in the belly of the beast without ever succumbing, but on average those regions will drain considerable life force/integrity from their residents. Some places just make you sick.

Today, living within the electromagnetic radiation web we've saturated our atmosphere with, overexposure to idiotic hypocrisies, fealty demands, and popular lies is available on tap in even the remotest of hinterlands. Yippee, we can now make ourselves sick through pious duplicity just about anywhere on earth!

Not that humanity would ever be able to come to any agreement on what lying to oneself might actually entail. Should we ever do so, lying to oneself would probably promptly turn into its own opposite, just to keep us on our toes. Which does make me wonder whether there might be some god of lying to oneself, surely one of the many dread handmaidens of Karma, keeping her from ever becoming overly bored with her assigned role in the universe.

Fortunately, our own bodies/chi/immune systems seem to have absolutely no trouble figuring out whenever we lie to ourselves. Then they can promptly deliver any necessary depletion and illness, so that we might learn the error of our ways and begin practicing greater honesty with ourselves. Perhaps deceiving ourselves about our fanciful fanatic blind faith in pharmaceutical companies, 3-letter agencies, and overpaid bureaucrats in labcoats simply requires an unusually large dose of corrective depletion and illness, in order to redirect those who survive back to a path of healthy honesty.

— Christophe