ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 153

We are now winding up the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I could guess at some point something like this would be done. I've tried saving as many relevant articles as I could from the beginning, including useful research I found for therapies etc, but over time, the volume just got a bit overwhelming - one big positive of doing the high-dose piracetam brain stack for almost 2 years nowand being able to consume even more literature.

The crappification of the general internet search engines continue too... I sense it was done deliberately, so I'm having problems trying to pull up articles I read but didn't save, but wanted to refer to them again and darn.. 5 pages of search results and they aren't popping up.

One of the early threads for this week's discussion had someone saying that he doesn't believe in shedding... has seen no proof from scientific studies. While both Dr Kory and Midwestern doc have done extensive pieces detailing various shedding effects, his categorical declaration upset me, like the system doctors gaslighting vex injured folks - I must have been imagining all the issues that my family members have had to deal with... and there's new issues cropping up over time too. FWIW, Pfizer's own clinical trial papers noted shedding effects, but since MSM didn't report it, I guess it's not happening /s. I wanted to pull up a simple example - that vexines have been known to shed .... like the MMR vex. If one goes back 5 years ago, the system was categorically denying that such a thing happened for MMR... but in the past year, you can pull up search results saying that in rare cases, the Rubella portion of the vex can shed. But only that, and it's mild.. no worries for the public etc. Someone did a rather extensive investigation (which I've not been able to find again), where upon a measles outbreak, they actually find that a recently MMR-vexed person was the cause. Oh say what? The measles vex causes other people to get measles? Again and again, each report would declare that it was an isolated and rare instance... and this guy compiled news stories of such over a period of time.

Then now we have the mRNA platform, where it can make some folks into 24/7 spike factories - I think the longest confirmed case has been 2 years past the last jab and the poor guy was still producing the spikes. That's the reality that we have to deal with in highly-vexed and high population density areas... there's going to be folks, maybe 1 in 1000, who's going to be a walking spike factory wherever he goes. The effects are going to be scary crazy - literally so in this case. Last month a friend of mine who lives 700km away had a psychotic break... she had taken the SV shots and nothing else for 3 years, and the system classified it as encephalitis. Exactly 1 year after the same situation happened with my wife.. who insisted on meeting up with former colleagues who were jabbed to the wazoo and she had the same psychotic break. Full battery of tests on her spinal fluid returned no detectable infection - it included a battery of tests only by the Mayo clinic, but the colour alone showed that something was going on. Final medical diagnosis? Encephalitis. Convenient catch-all phrase.

Anyways, I've mentioned that stuff keeps happening to my family.. I notice and I have to figure out solutions or possible mitigations, as it will be hitting everyone else in due time. By the time someone in my circle or the online forums that I frequent ask for help/advice regarding a new issue, I can provide some useful guidelines. If they are open-minded, they gratefully accept the often positive results... but if they want to keep holding to aspects of the medical system, it only slows the deterioration.

I just feel like there's kind of a weird thing going on now.... it's across multiple forums, but just here, this week we have someone declaring that shedding is not happening, despite all the anec-data evidence - he MUST have an official scientific study published before he believes it's for real. Couple weeks ago, the benefits of nicotine was explained and the mechanisms by which it works to protect against the spike - and the poster just went ad hominem. Then a week or two before that, someone declared that VIM must be just as evil coz the alt-scene is 'pushing' it and it's still a big pharma product, so it can't be that good. Oh boy.

Hey stubborn_ass, that's me upthread being sceptical about shedding. I'm sorry that your family have had to deal with so many issues from shedding. I have seen that Pfizer's clinical trial papers noted shedding effects, and I've read Kory's piece. I guess my ongoing scepticism is because surely this should be easy to prove - if something physical is being shed, it should be straightforward to find evidence of this (yes I know there's very little incentive for big pharma to unertake this research). Given that we don't have this, I'm unsure to what extent this goes on, for how long, what quantity is being shed...many unknowns. I don't discount it as being real, I'm just unsure how much of an effect it has. I live quite rurally, I think I've seen you mention that you're in a densely populated region, which I'm sure has an impact, too.

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