Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 153

[ecosophia]

We are now winding up the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[stubborn_ass]

Useful recap of the dates: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241875

First para:

This virus was newly discovered in January of 2020. FALSE; Judicial watch has now proved that Fauci and the NIH knew that Covid-19 was diagnosed no later than December 2nd 2019 in Wuhan. This was deliberately concealed under confidentiality agreements between China and the NIH. In short Dr. Fauci and the NIH knowingly and repeatedly lied about the time of first discovery and diagnosis and it is documented that this was known in February and early March and not disclosed. We also now know with scientific certainty that the virus was in the US no later than the second week of December of 2019 because antibodies were found in about 1.5% of blood donations from that time. This, along with the sequencing back-computation I performed in early 2020 places the latest the virus entered the US as sometime in October of 2019 and from the blood bank data it is scientifically proved it had infected about 1.5% of the population, or roughly 4 million people in the US, by the second week of December 2019. This in turn means that we had widespread disease which was blamed on something else. Indeed we handled all 4 million of those cases just fine up until the hysteria started, didn't we? You didn't even know those 4 million sick people, and those who died of it, existed prior to the hysteria being ginned up.

[ecosophia]

The problem is, from an astrologer's standpoint, that none of this gives me a place, date, and time for a chart. If you have any suggestions for this, I'm all ears.

[stubborn_ass]

There's too many "coincidences".. as in too many folks were actually pretty sick in the fall of 2019, before the official 'lab leak' from Wuhan. As Garland Nixon pointed out in his timeline of covid coincidences, there was a big hue and cry about vaping illnesses, I think starting from Aug 2019 onwards, hence even earlier. Hence the high rate of antibody detection in the blood supply...

Subsequently in 2020, it was obvious (to me) that they released different variants from various labs in different parts of the world almost at the same time... too many key differences for it to have been naturally evolved in tha short period of time. My point is that too many labs were mucking about with the gain of function research, and some of the lab leaks seem to be 'opportunistic' in that someone may have wanted to see which viral version would be propagate better. Hence it's hard to determine the real start date and origin, IMHO.

[ecosophia]

I freely acknowledge this, but it still doesn't give me a place, date, and time for a chart. Astrologers have to work with what they can get.

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard to be sure that finding antibodies in 1.5% of sampled blood donations really means 1.5% of the whole population had been exposed to covid already, because (1) people who donate blood differ from people who don't (e.g., they may be younger, healthier and more socially active, and more likely to live in urban areas) and (2) some amount of cross-reactivity with existing common cold coronaviruses isn't impossible. We know that can happen with PCR testing (enough cycles, and a sequence that the primer *rarely* binds to eventually amplifies; could it happen with tests for antibodies? We know there were false positives from the first nasal swab tests and it was never clear what caused them.

Cessair