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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-07-09 10:10 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 153

politburo logicWe are now winding up the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: Population Immunity

(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
"obscure"? hardly!
(laughing)

erika

Re: Population Immunity

(Anonymous) 2024-07-10 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
☕️🍰☕️🍰☕️🍰

Re: Population Immunity

(Anonymous) 2024-07-11 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I did mean that as something of a compliment, really. "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" as Krishnamurti put it; I think most of us here are quite badly adapted to modern society, which is a good sign to me. Any civilization which is causing a mass extinction highly deserves to rejected as thoroughly as is possible, said this particular Aquarian.

Are you sure you wouldn't spontaneously combust, John, if you found yourself metioned on CNN??

Re: Population Immunity

(Anonymous) 2024-07-13 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
How marvelously and utterly surreal.


:-)
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Re: Population Immunity

[personal profile] frittermywig 2024-07-11 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe not mainstream, but I was listening to the James Delingpole podcast with Katherine Watt today (published 7 Nov. 2023), and she credits you by name and cites the Ecosophia site for setting her on the track to investigate the legal framework that allowed the vax-mandates to take place. Somehow I hadn't heard of her before today and she's an excellent writer.

Re: Population Immunity

(Anonymous) 2024-07-12 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Papa's reach is far larger than I imagined. I wonder if he was ever a DM in a D&D group. I was and man listening to you would have been epic in a dungeon. Mostly anon's, and that is sad, but doxxing is real. Sheesh since the beginnings of covid most of us have witnessed outright career assassination just for stating the obvious. Nothing controversial really, and nothing conspiracy theory.

I'm saddened I can no longer be a fringe theorist...all of my worst case theories were too conservative by several orders of magnitude. Power doesn't even try to hide it anymore. In your face and you are x'ist if you notice or ask a question.

This group is one helluva great group and 20 years ago being able to meet up and share a beer would have been legendary.

Please keep this weekly corona topic around. You can't change the unchangeable in those that took the vax. But man if you care about someone, the learning shared here can help reduce pain. While the mainstream is slipping on allowing posts about the vax and potential damage, you don't have a flccc type repair/reduce the damage outside of folks like you. And I thank you. I love that I can get notices to preprints, anecdotes and more before most of the world due to this, wise, and self-selecting group of public and anons who frequent this great druids site.

thank you
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Re: having a "reach far larger:"

(Anonymous) 2024-07-12 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, over the course of the past few years I've been pleasantly surprised to find appreciative mentions of JMG on a variety of dissident sites-- the (now defunct) Vineyard of the Saker site, Postcards from Barsoom (John Carter), and Simplicius are three that come to mind just off the top of my head. Ideas spread sometimes, like ... viruses.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*