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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 142

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I can understand that many are exhausted by it all and resigned to these crimes going unpunished.

It is disheartening.

However, I think there are less comments because there is some brilliant commentary here that speaks for us all and what more of value can we add. I still read the comments. I also think that many of us sense that this is far from over and we are simply waiting for the other shoe to drop. There is a lot going on - wars, hints of new diseases to come and, perhaps most importantly, legislation to force the QR codes and the CBDC - both of which will mean more power to coerce for the TPTB. Maybe many are watching and waiting and observing - and resting up for the next onslaught.

I know I am.

Liam in Toronto

2 things to address:

***The hospitals really did kill people, and got bonuses to do it. Doctors knowingly gave drugs and treatments that were harmful and got bonuses for it ***

Here in Singapore, just heard from some lady in my group that she had a friend who's dad was very ill and had to be hospitalized. While there, they tested him and said he had the coof among other things (that wasn't what he was in for).. and called her while she was stressed at work and said really really had to do Remdisivor now else he may not make it. She's a normie who's woken up some.. and knew enough that RundeathIsNear doesn't work.. and said no, I don't agree to give the shot. No comms for a while.. and then she later learns that her father had been injected anyways, without her consent. So they'd already done it.. and were emotionally-blackmailing her to give her consent post-haste to cover their ass.... she demanded to see the records, and amazing, the hospital said that they've lost the records of which doctor administered the shot. This is 2024.. .and this kind of nonsense (to put it mildly) is still going on. Unless you have an urgent issue where allopathic treatment is appropriate - really, I see hospitals as just death traps now, on top of being huge negative karmic places.

**** So we endured two years of mass murder, that is still going on, just with less intensity, for now. The mass murderers got rewarded and will face no negative consequences. ****

Oh I disagree. Remember that the effetes really believed that their extrusions didn't stink and took the jabs for the most part. So the clock is ticking for all of them... we've seen enough jab-promoters join the 'suddenly' crowd, in ever increasing numbers this year. Most credible forecasts from the mystic end see big pickup from June onwards... the die is cast. We just have to continue to do our own spiritual work on ourselves.. and answer whichever calling seems most suitable.

Yet in the midst of a seemingly gloomy picture, there has been such tremendous and shining beacons of hope, including this forum. Once you know what to look for, you can see many others, often soldiering alone, and quietly giving information, sharing knowledge on many things that will be very relevant in the near future. Big groupings are still avoided for now, as no one wants to give the system a big fat target to hit.

A hearty "what you said" to everyone above, including that JMG, your calm, reasoned "voice" and this forum have been an absolute lifeline during this mass insanity event.

I must also give a hat tip to ZeroHedge and his commentors, whose airing of the shenanigans around (not) treating Coronavirus, and around the shots, put up some red flags for me in the second half of 2020. That, and the bad histories of prior strenuously-ballyhooed medical treatments, caused me to shy off from the shots long enough to get the data that showed they were dangerous.

The first clue-by-four upside the head is the hardest. Mine was in 2009, watching "Hope" Obama turn on us all and not only not repair the financial system, but do everything in his and Congress' power to jack the price of housing right back up again. At that time I left the Democratic fold and became solidly independent. I brought that skepticism to the table in 2020.

That said, you are right. There are a lot of kind, good people still in the world. I try to cultivate those relationships and not get bitter, but I do still get sad to see the unknowing and deceived.

- Cicada Grove

It's a really melancholy time right now. JMG has delineated the details on his astrology Patreon (see any Magic Monday for the link), and 'the stars' are in a deep blue funk these days. I definitely feel it.

As for Tucker, he experienced firsthand this:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/04/13/the-intel-agencies-of-government-are-fully-weaponized/

The fact that they acted against him tells me all I need to know-- he is doing the right things.

- Cicada Grove

Dido the melancholy, I’ve not been writing here for a few months due to my having mostly cold hearted things to say. I still read this forum it weekly and am happy it’s up.

Disappointment or no, the hits keep on coming.

A tweet that Ontario health statistics confirm Dr. Naomi Wolf on the reproductive problems of the vax: https://twitter.com/SaiKate108/status/1783112320283234695

This video was from over a year ago... just the excerpt on him talking about the disappointment. The full speech by Tucker Carlson then is definitely worth a listen, I believe it was just before he was fired from Faux, and him openly calling out the hypocrisy and lies precipitated the firing, but of course they used some other excuse.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=oFDknk&v=780730449967119&rdid=vP3gJ7qJ7M1Epju0

The classically accepted 5 stages of grief probably needs to include another one - Disappointment. It mostly applies to folks like us that didn't spend much time in the denial, anger and bargaining stages - as there wasn't much point in engaging and compromising with a very corrupt system. Depression - that still hits me on and off as I can feel the huge amount of suffering and worse going on. Acceptance brings peace of mind, and a continuous awareness that a ton of work still lie ahead of us to help rebuild meaningfully, and also help others heal when they do reach out. That latter part - is happening more and more, fwiw. The hard-earned/learnt therapies, plus other stuff I'm still trialling, is paying huge dividends.

The future may not be so bright that we'd have to wear shades... but it's a real possibility now. I'm only wary of how much damage the current effetes can do as they go down on their various sinking ships. In my local context for example, they are force-starting ever larger construction projects which will never be completed, while ruining yet more green spaces and actively reducing the carrying capacity of the land. Insane is how I would put it.

A substacker has gone through the submissions to the Australian government's Covid Response Inquiry and found numerous accounts of myocarditis and other injuries:

https://shiftedparadigms.substack.com/p/the-covid-19-response-inquiry-submissions

What really shocked me was the disregard for fundamental human rights. Right at the start of the lockdowns, the covid article comment sections in my local newspaper was full of people directly expressing their hatred for the ideal of individual freedom. This was the first thing I noticed that made me think that there was something seriously wrong happening and turned me into a hardcore opponent of lockdowns. The media also started talking about "sovereign individuals", which I think was a propaganda attack against anyone who might criticise the lockdowns from a libertarian perspective. And the media ran plenty of articles over the course of the covid insanity arguing that public health should take precedence over individual rights.

Here in Australia, the entire government, media, academic, and corporate sectors supported the lockdowns and didn't see a problem with forcing people to take experimental injections. This reveals an astounding level of ignorance when it comes to basic human rights, and that putting individual freedom above everything else is what distinguishes a country like Australia from some third world dictatorship. Basically, almost an entire society doesn't understand the principles upon which it is supposed to be based. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though, since this stuff isn't taught in school as far as I know.

As far as stupidity is concerned, what I can't get over is the outdoor masks. How could people believe that they could catch a virus walking down an empty street? And people did seriously believe this, it wasn't all about virtue signalling. This is the point at which people should have started asking why they were being told to do all of these ridiculous things. But instead, they just went along.

It must have been similar watching Communists suddenly switch en mass to being ardent Nazis in the 1930's.

If I am hearing you correctly there is something deeper than a sense of disappointment in your reaction.

There's a sense of betrayal.

It's the reaction you have when people who are in some way on your side, or are colleagues or family, let you down. You trusted them, and somewhere in there they deserted you when the going got rough.

And in some cases - my own and many others - they not only deserted you; they turned on you and attacked you. I don't know if that happened to you, but I've had that happen to me.

Disappointment is a difficult experience; betrayal cuts a lot deeper.

Maybe I'm hallucinating here since this touches on strong feelings I have that I hadn't pinned down before - but that is part of what I hear in your words.

Yes, that parallel occurred to me as well.

That's a fair analysis, I think. I've had some very bitter hours as a result of mistakenly thinking that when people say they believe something and consider it of great importance, they aren't just engaging in oral flatulence.

Yes, that betrayal thing cuts deep. I’m sure that most, if not all, who frequent this space, can relate to it. I’ve been mixing with quite a lot of military veterans in recent years, many of whom have experienced – or continue to experience – PTSD. And the one thing that they say that really impacted me is that PTSD is not created by the traumatic event; it is the betrayal by those whom one had trusted after the event that is the core of PTSD. As a person who has never been in combat, I do not want to equate our dissident struggle against the madness with being caught in a hail of live rounds and/or RPGs, but I believe that we all suffer from at least some degree of PTSD.

In the words of a combat veteran / top-grade dissident whom I greatly respect (he lost a lot of friends in the Afghanistan War and has had a mountain of PTSD to deal with), “I know that death is unavoidable, so what can a man do? Like what it says in Gladiator, smile back [at Death]. How do you get to a place where you can face fear like a man with the attitude of ‘let’s go then, bring it on, you get me or you don’t - it doesn’t matter’? You know how? It’s when you know in your heart that you tried. Because you can choose to care about things that matter, or you can choose not to. And it is easy to choose not to because it is so fracking horrible. But when it’s over, I don’t want to have to stand in the presence of God and try to explain why I frittered my life away not caring about anything.”

May we all have the clarity of mind and inner strength to conquer this ‘great disappointment’. I think that knowing that one is not alone in this struggle is so important. Hence the huge value of the oases of sanity, like this forum. There’s something about a shared trauma, an understanding of each others’ pain, and a caring about each other, that can make a difference between throwing in the towel and keeping up the good fight!

Ron M

"It seems to me that disconnecting is the only way to stay okay. A good time to spend more time in the garden..." is perhaps one significant reason comments are down lately. It's garden season in much of the northern hemisphere just now and, I at least, simply don't have the time to spare online. Because this isn't anywhere near over, and now Spring has sprung, I feel an urgency in both the near and long term to get to positive, productive tasks.
I'm blessed in a way to have dodged the disappointment others are communicating, having been raised by narccisitic and fearful parents and working for a large corporation, there was never any expectation of honesty or fair play. What I'm feeling now is relief. Things are out in the open and it's invigorating to have a clear course of action that is dependent on my willpower and resolve. This is a worthwhile fight mostly with myself now.
Gawain

Dr. Fauci To Testify Publicly For First Time Since Retirement

https://dailycaller.com/2024/04/24/dr-fauci-testify-publicly-first-time-retiring-covid-coronavirus-congress-peter-daszak-ecohealth-alliance/

Yes, I too feel disappointed and betrayed and I was seriously creeped out by the bluster and blank stares. I feel like I don't know what the people I love truly value now. I have no idea what their deepest beliefs are.

In terms of dealing with these feelings, I am trying to be patient and compassionate. So many people in my life are sick and suffering. The person whom I think was the most cruel is the most sick. It doesn't feel like justice, it's just sad.

I also remind myself of the ridiculous lies I fell for - I was initially glad when the schools closed. I could easily have continued to believe them. I am lucky I stopped.

In 2021 I tried to point out the shortcomings of the foxes. I thought logic, critical thinking, and shared values would be persuasive. Nope. I ceased once the boosting started.

I mostly feel like I'm treading water near drowning people. I offered life lines and I was rejected. I can throw more, if asked. But I can't get too close lest they pull me under.

Heloise

Dylan, I like how you put that, "the fear circus."

My way of moving past the disappointment is to transcribe censored and shadow-banned video relating to, to borrow your term, the fall-out of the fear circus. Most of the people I transcribe are very courageous, and as I transcribe, I see their courage and I see their soul's unique beauty. Even when they are saying something dreadful about what what they witnessed or what has befallen them, I find so many of them inspiring.

I think disappointment, indeed massive disappointment, is totally understandable. Certainly, since 2020 I myself have felt it with many people I care for, and many people whose judgement and wisdom I once respected. But I also consider dwelling on this disappointment a trap, a form of self-pity. It serves me to focus on my feelings of disappointment to the extent that I can parse out some understandings about why this happened, and what specifically I wish to do about it, that these might serve me now and in the future. Otherwise, no. For me now, it's like a house that has already burned down. I don't live there anymore. And, as it were, though I'm still adjusting, I like where I live now.

Impact of COVID-19 State of Emergency on Female Reproduction

In partnership with Kaleidoscope Strategic, DailyClout presents a unique and compelling analysis of medical health data. The analysis of about six million unique patients’ data highlights the negative reproduction impacts — including serious menstrual harms and female and male fertility issues — of Canada’s COVID-19 state of emergency and rollout of COVID vaccines. The results can be extrapolated to all countries that have high mRNA COVID-19 vaccination rates.

The datasets Kaleidoscope Strategic used in this evaluation include information from years prior to the COVID pandemic and COVID vaccines as well as data from the during the pandemic and COVID vaccines years. Two Canadians obtained this January 2015 to December 2022 data, through two Freedom of Information (FOI) requests to the Ministry of Health Ontario, from the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP).

more at link:

https://dailyclout.io/impact-of-covid-19-state-of-emergency-on-female-reproduction/

I wonder if many of them didn't really believe that natural medicine was better in the first place, rather they liked the idea of natural medicine (as well as small businesses) but still had a deeper seated belief in technological medicine at least for anything they considered a serious issue. In this way it was similar to those who claimed to believe that 2012 would bring some massive transformation but ended up not really believing that at all when the time actually came.

My personal experience is that everyone I knew that was deeply into holistic medicine kept those ideals during covid and was skeptical of the narrative. It was those whose beliefs were more superficial who flipped, particularly those with left wing politics.

I wonder if for many leftists, natural medicine and small businesses are in the same category as oppressed peoples, victims that are virtuous to support but can't compete with the western industrial civilization model on their own. So they end up being "fair weather friends" of sort, and given enough fear the leftists will turn against them. This could have future implications for minority groups, as given enough of a different sort of fear and enough encouragement by mass media could lead many white woke leftists to flip to being overt white supremacists.

I follow JMG on subscribestar, and I'm an astrologer myself, so yeah I get what you're saying.

My astrology for this year (solar return and other systems) is horrendously bad, and it screams eighth house, Saturn and Mars over and over. I'm dealing with death this year big time, including possibly my own.

What is going on now astrologically is definitely part of that for me, and so far it is hitting me personally mostly on an emotional level. It's a hard set of energies to ride with. (If you're into jazz, I've been listening a lot to mid seventies Miles Davis - it has a dark heavy intensity that fits the energy just now.)

World’s Chocolate Supply Under Threat By Virus, Researchers Call for Cacao Trees To Be Vaccinated

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/worlds-chocolate-supply-under-threat-virus-researchers-call/

ok this is getting serious now!

At a deeper level, somewhat related, I remember some of the wildest kids at school, the kind who were always getting in trouble. You'd be surprised to learn that some of them are some of the most religious straitlaced adults you'd ever meet. I was.

There's some sort of weird natural law going on here, where if the vector of a hooman is pointed one way, it will eventually swing so that it becomes its own antivector. There are many things about this realm that I have questions over and will probably never get a good answer to. This is one of them.

What do y’all think is up with all the COVID-style face masks at recent pro-Palestine protests at universities? Is it like the old black bloc thing but it’s just easier to get COVID masks to conceal your identity now vs balaclavas, or are they actually worried about COVID still…? Is it just a woke totem? It kinda creeps me out.

I have to agree with everything that has been stated here, it was one of the most bizarre and disappointing times of my life. Me and my wife watched with horror as people we had thought much better of just jumped on the crazy train and gave away their power to big pharma.
As time went by I started to feel that there was something wrong on a deeper level with what happened to people and society at large. I talked a lot to a long time friend who did not jump on the crazy train and with whom I have for many years shared both interest and experiences in spiritual work. We both felt that something was off and felt eerie, almost as if there was more to it than just mass propaganda and social pressure. We did some joint efforts on the issue at the height of the madness and it seemed as though it had an effect, at least on some level. It feels as though there was some unseen spiritual influence at play, maybe in a similar way to what you describe in The King in Orange?

/Fredrik

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