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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-04-16 09:14 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 141

they can't handle the truthWe are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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[personal profile] temporaryreality 2024-04-17 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I second Scotlyn's idea to create a new "product" called "hugs" or whatever, at a "choose your own price."

Or sign up for "buy me a coffee" or something.

Make it easy for us!

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-17 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, okay, Temporary Reality! but not hugs or kisses. i would never dare charge for such things! i'll have to think of something not so whore-ish...

(smile)

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-18 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Why not a (virtual) slice of "free pie?"

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-18 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, now that's interesting because of the art...

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[personal profile] scotlyn 2024-04-18 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Now THAT sounds like a thing! ;)
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[personal profile] temporaryreality 2024-04-18 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh duh, I envisioned it backward - the donation is a "hug" given to you...

now I'm kinda sad that it came across the other way...

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-18 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Temporary, i have prickly issues around money and incentives. i react to money being offered like coof shots. i've been that way since i was a kid. in the Norse fairy tales that Kay Nielsen illustrated, that i used to study, the hero who chose baskets of mice or birds over gold, ended up with an entire army when the going got rough.

i already FEEL all the love and hugs without the money. i know i make things hard on myself this way, always have, and that's why i couldn't have children. i knew they'd suffer for my pride.

you sent me boxes of ivermectin and Ellen from Maine sent me chaga and Scotlyn knew how to winnow her words into my center like "DEAL WITH IT" and i've gotten more from this place than any money pitch could net me.

so there is no need to be sad... it's the same: you giving money as a hug or me charging for a hug is tiny compared to what you gave me out of your HEART.

i'm reading Papa's weekly essay and it fits. the idea of trading netting you way more than you could've bought for the cash.

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[personal profile] scotlyn 2024-04-18 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Just remember that money isn't real. Neither the paper token, nor the "pricklies" you feel... none of that is real. It is a "play" that this society is currently staging, and if you gonna act out a role on that stage, you gotta pretend to work with the stuff... "give unto Ceasar... if you want to pretend Ceasar (or this coin) is real"...

The real stuff is everything else - what we do, what we create, what we give, what we take... You could never "charge" for a hug... ie, you could not accept fake stuff for real stuff... ;)

But you can certainly charge virtual money for virtual pie... and that would be a very fair trade! :)

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(Anonymous) 2024-04-19 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
I do love you hugely. Thanks for knowing me.
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