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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2024-02-27 09:43 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 134

don't complyWe are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

[personal profile] escorcher 2024-03-03 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/269049.html?thread=46845433#cmt46845433

"... Rintrah is another example... very smart guy, came close to seeing the spiritual angle at one point, got scared and backed away with haste and his analysis since then is very much just cherry-picking data/studies to support his view that we'll end up with a coof variant that will be lethal/deadly. Lunar Apprentice here was asking if Rintrah's concerns were valid... I'd say he's (Rintrah) missing the forest for the trees - again and again.

Go back to basic principles - the shots can go pretty much anywhere in the body. Some locations will result in much faster demise than other places, but at a minimum, you systemaatically damage the immune system. Again, it doesn't have to be a death sentence - a lot of the subsequent immune deficiencies can be addressed, but how many are actually doing that, rather than treating the more obvious symptoms that present itself? We now have sky high rates of TB, dengue etc in the tropical areas... RSV and flu requiring hospitalization in the temperate areas.... birth rates for 2023 have plunged to record lows across all the clot-shotted countries... excess deaths keep climbing.... Sepsis is now common across all those countries etc. MSM pieces in those countries now finally admitting that emergency rooms/wards are full beyond full...

We don't need a lethal new variant of the coof. The consequences of the jab are still percolating exponentially out from people's last shots."
Edited (Removed doubled up text) 2024-03-03 05:03 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2024-03-03 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, regarding basic principles -

Don't forget that there is really no way that everyone got the same stuff injected.

Not only was there more than one type of jab, but there had to have been variations in manufacturing practices in every location, as well as quality-control issues with manufacture, shipping, and storage. There was a lot of money at stake, it was rushed, and there is no way there was much in the way of oversight.

Some people may have gotten full-strength, manufactured-to-spec, properly-stored product injected into them...but a lot of others surely got some variety of improperly-made, improperly-shipped, improperly-stored, diluted and/or degraded who-knows-what injection soup.

We can't know what was really going into all those arms, especially in the early, mass-jab-in-parking-lots phase. So the resulting damage (or lack thereof) to health and immune systems is going to vary greatly in relation to a factor we can't really track - beyond possibly identifying some "hot lots".

(Anonymous) 2024-03-03 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There appears to be very little variation among the mRNA vaccinated when it comes to the IgG 4 class switch though, to take one example. It shows up in 90% of them, from the papers I've seen. So whatever they actually got injected with, it's consistent enough to produce a tolerance response which isn't seen in the unvaccinated, or in those injected with the other types of vaccine.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-04 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough.

Still, I expect that some variations in what we're seeing - some people obviously jab-injured, some people who seem absolutely fine, and some in between - is due at least in part to variations in what actually got injected.

[personal profile] stubborn_ass 2024-03-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I agree there was plenty of fraud in terms of the initial injections. I'm working off Sasha Latypova's insider info that there just wasn't enough mRNA base materials to have made complete jabs - as she called it, they were just injecting 'garbage'... as in who knows what they were injecting. The best estimates I've seen suggests that 40% of the shots then were 'garbage'. Not full placebos, as they had all kinds of weird contamination, just not the full package.

Now 40% may seem like a high figure.... but after 2 shots, the odds are that it's only 16% that didn't get the intended package. That means after 2 shots, there's a 84% chance that a person had at least 1 real shot.

Those odds only applied through the first 4 to 6 months of the rollout, say latest Jun'21. After that I'm assuming it's much closer to 100% 'real' shots. We also had regional 'variations'.. The Japanese regulators were more diligent in checking for contamination, with MSM stories that they rejected certain lots as they had obvious metallic fragments contamination. The irony is that those were probably the 'garbage' shots, which would have done less harm over time, so the implication is that the Japanese ended up having a much higher incidence of the 'real' shots.

When I think back to how the sequence of how some events unfolded here in Singapore... the local MSM floated the idea of injecting kids, and some parents raised objections and concerns. A group of 12 doctors wrote a public letter going through the data showing the risk/benefits for injecting teenagers were too heavy on the risks, yet the data was not debated as the doctors were instantly villified by the press (same old same old around the world). Enough threats behind the scenes and 10 of the doctors quickly retracted their letters. The Ministry of Health made soothing noises that they would run clinical trials before injecting kids... yet within 1 week of starting the trials, it became mandatory policy to jab the kids. What, the clinical trial had data after 1 week, when there was barely any coof cases in Singapore? Lies lies piled upon lies. We now know that even in the Pfizer initial trials, there was more obvious mortality and other serious medical issues in the clnical group vs placebo, huge huge red flags that were ignored or covered up. It then becomes obvious that orders were passed down - just get the jabs into everyone's arms ASAP.

A lot of people naturally want to continue living their lives as before, pre-coof. The aggregate health data that's coming in says otherwise.... the economic data will eventually follow the health data, no matter how much manipulation or massaging they do. I see no point in pretending that things are 'ok' unless the obvious is patently in-your-face. From the tone of the comments in the past few weeks posts, there is a lot of grieving going on.... that's how I interpret the 'mental trauma' that many folks are going through. Yet that is part of the grieving/healing process, however painful..... next comes acceptance.

Even amongst my freedom group, where I would first share my anti-shedding or other treatment protocols after I've done enough testing, I'd say only half would pay attention even though pretty much all the predictions I've made over the past couple years have come true. I don't even get frustrated... as the issues I talked about finally hit someone in their family or themselves a few months later and they're scrambling around to acquire the suggested detox ingredients. You can bring a horse to water, and all that...

Recently I saw a video where Jimmy Dore was interviewing Dr Pierre Kory. Jimmy mentioned that he has had 2 shots, which obvious heart injury which was being treated... and should he worry about more serious stuff happening. Dr Kory had a slight hesitation, and then robustly replied, no, this far out from his last shot, he should be fine. I know doctors want to give hope but that came across as false assurance to me. I saw this video recent by Dr Phillip McMillan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv1k1HX64eI

Quick summary: He had a whistleblower from an angio cath lab, very senior technician who's called upon to assist doctors in the operating room, and they're pulling out the huge white fibrous clots out of living patients now. After the initial rollouts, it was about once or twice a month. Now 2+ years later, it could be 3 or 4 a week, and some of the folks only had 1 jab a long while ago. He has access to all their medical jab history, including when and which shots they got. All were jabbed, some had up to 8!! shots. I can make a guess that the ones who had 8 shots were lucky to get 2 'placebos' initially.. and then started to roll the dice. The video was initially shadow-banned by the main platforms, so he uploaded more copies onto different platforms and hopefully this stays up for a while longer.

Based on my intuition and what has happened to someone else in my freedom group and myself (slow but noticeable climb in blood pressure 2 weeks ago, still in a healthy range, just not as good as before), the shedding is causing all kinds of clots to form. So once a month, we should do a high dose natto/serra for a few days to clear up any accumulation. For example, my BP had gone up to 132/85, did high dose n/s and my BP read 140/85 the next day. That's an indication that something had been dissolved in my bloodstream, but the wasteproducts had not yet been cleared by the liver and kidneys, so it reads higher the next day before going lower the day after. I don't 'feel' bad during this detox phase, unlike a year ago when I first used this protocol. I just checked, my BP is now 127/84, and surprisingly my resting heart rate is 2 beats lower than before, with no change in exercise or sleep pattern.



[personal profile] escorcher 2024-03-05 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for sharing - particularly the estimated percentage on misfiring mRNA vixens. Interesting.

[personal profile] boccaccio 2024-03-05 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this input. I just watched the interview of dr McMillan and dr Chetty with the whistleblower.

I was a bit disappointed that they didn't ask more questions about the developments in the frequency and patients with the white clots. They also didn't seem to be aware of the findings of the late prof. Burkhardt. Prof. Burkhardt found that the white clots consist mainly of proteins that enter the bloodstream after the destruction of endotheel cells. We know that spike protein destroys endotheel, so spike could be to blame for the white clots.

It was interesting that dr Chetty asked if everybody had the full white clots, or some hybrid with the usual substance and the white stuff. The latter is the case. That is consistent with prof Burkhardts findings.

The following is speculative, but I think we can connect some dots here. As the white clots do not dissolve in the body, there will only be additions to the existing clots whenever new spike gets into the body (That is, unless some people have permanent spike production in their body due to IgG4 or resevoirs in places where the immune system has little acces or due to a change in DNA). Spike gets in the body both when someone takes their x-th booster and when one gets their x-th Covid infection, even if it seems like a mild one. This could explain why sudden deaths and heart arrythmias keep being a a high level: some people are still boosting and new variants are creating Covid-waves in rapid succession.

Your succes with natto and serra is interesting. I know these enzymes can dissolve spike, but I wonder if they can also dissolve the white clots?