ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 134

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Hi Cicada Grove, thank you for your sympathetic words. They are very gratefully received. My condolences for your father and your friend.

Yes, I'm not sure I can think of a similar event in history, where so many people made so many bad decisions so quickly and in such lockstep. It makes me almost wish to discover that I myself am the crazy one- that would in some ways be an easier reality to live with.

Can I ask where you found or how you arrived at your 9% US unvaxxed figure? I could readily believe it of my country, Canada, but surely in the land of the free there was much greater dissension?

Thank you for your good wishes with the sleep issues. It is an ongoing difficulty, and I think the emotions are the cause rather than anything physical. I shall endeavour to keep journalling and keep in contact with other sympathetic souls.

Dylan

Hi, Dylan:

Well, I'm an anal-ytical, and so I crunched the data mostly from the CDC's website:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-people-onedose-pop-5yr

This page has 3 tabs-- "at least 1 shot", "completed primary series" (whatever that is, does that mean 2 shots?), and "updated bivalent booster dose".
I did math using the "count" and the "percent" to figure out the total US population and the populations of each group; those numbers came in for use later.

The trouble with these data is that it's not clear how the numbers of people who took plain-vanilla boosters overlaps (or doesn't) with the number of people who took the bivalent booster(s). CDC doesn't call out numbers for plain boosters at all, nor for sure "how many people got only 2 shots".

Looking at the numbers on the CDC site today, I find the needle has barely moved for 1 shot and "primary series" since I crunched the numbers a year ago. It appears that most Americans are pretty much "done" with the shots. However, the number of people getting bivalent boosters has grown by about 4-6 million in each of the age groups under 65 (these are still about 20% of their age groups total). I imagine this gives us an idea of the population of "true believers" in the US. (about 50 million) Sadly, they are also still dosing their kids. :P

In the "land of the free" there was indeed much foot-dragging after about June of 2021, and then the baseball bat came out. Biden as you recall, attempted to mandate the entire country into taking the shots-- he had no legal standing to do so, actually, but loads of employers were only too happy to enforce them on their employees. "Take the shot or lose your job". Biden did have leverage over our military (soldiers can't flee or they are declared AWOL and wind up in the stockade) and our airlines (a significant portion of the airlines' business is hauling things for the government, and they are an extremely low-margin business so they couldn't afford to P.O. the government), so those populations pretty much got forced into taking the shots. As did a lot of people in New York State and especially New York City.

Internationalism comments: In our respective countries, we get ideas of what people from certain other countries are like, that turn out not to be entirely true. For example, I had an image of Australians as rugged, practical outback-wranglers from the movie "Crocodile Dundee", but Mr. Dundee probably reflects only 1% or so of the Australian population. During this mass insanity event I learned from comments here (thank you SO much for these threads, JMG!!!) how many Australians actually are domesticated city dwellers and were only too happy to go along with the lemming rush.

Similarly, I thought that Canadians, Germans, and New Zealanders for example were kind, nice, sane level-headed people who would never go for totalitarian measures. And, I think, this is true of the grassroots citizens-- but boy, did the leaders of those countries ever go nuts! It astounded me.

I think those from other countries also get a fictionalized impression of Americans-- perhaps as rampaging cowboys waving guns about. Actually, rugged outdoorsy people in cowboy hats are only 1 or 2% of the US population, and most Americans also live in cities. Several cities, such as Chicago, NYC, and Washington DC, ban gun ownership outright. But the most citified, "liberal" and supposedly "most anti-tyranny" U.S. populations were the ones who hit people over the head hardest to take the shots.

OTOH, the Canadian Trucker Protest was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. A Niceness Tsunami. You Canucks showed us all how it is done. Now if you can ever buck your tyrannical leaders off your backs you'll be doing great. Same for all the rest of us around the world.

- Cicada Grove

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