Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 134

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Defecting Nonconformists

[stubborn_ass]

During the first few months, folks around the world was experimenting and trying out various therapies, often with good results - and yet MSM and social media deliberately censored and memory-holed them. Quite a few examples have been mentioned by me in various posts... one thing I didn't mention was that I followed a lot of fantastic discussions on JAMA (a medical group) forums, where doctors around the world were sharing their therapies and results. All subsequently shut-down and ignored. When Delta was raging in India, one state widely prescribed VIM and some associated cheap meds (AZ and HCQ I believe) and they had a negligible death rate... did the other Indian states follow? Nope, one even banned VIM then. That wasn't just insane, it was very deliberate.

Yes, maybe some people averted their eyes to the obvious ... quite a few still do, as a means of coping. A quaint example would be Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame), who is obviously vex-injured, and just did a 2nd mea culpa on twitter. His first was over a year ago, was only half-sincere and mockingly said the anti-vexxers chose to jab out of stubborness/plain luck. In his 2nd attempt, he still frames it as anti-vexxers winning and the jabberwockies losing, as he is now wondering what he will be like in 5 year, if he's even still alive then. The comments are generally telling him - we never looked at it as winning or losing... (that is just so crass and simplistic).. we were the ones who actually looked at the studies (or lack of), smelt the rat from the getgo... and tried our best to warn friends and family, often to no avail. Our hearts were broken many times.. and our faith in fellow men shaken. I honestly expect a 3rd mea culpa from him, when he finally figures out that the system was really out to get him, and it wasn't a conspiracy theory.

Re: Defecting Nonconformists

[charlieobert]

About Scott Adams - it makes sense he would frame his vaxx decision as win lose. I think he conceptualized in terms of persuasion win/lose rather than true/false - you win bigly or you lose bigly.

With his reality-as-computer-simulation model I don't think he had a strong concept of a real physical reality out there that is going to follow certain laws regardless of how you think about it.

Also, with his being a self-proclaimed master hypnotist and persuader - that plus a lot of weed - I think he was convinced he could see through other's persuasion attempts, and he was too smart to be taken in. Thinking you're too smart to be affected by persuasion spells makes you dead meat for them.

Re: Defecting Nonconformists

[(Anonymous)]

He had that young trophy wife, quite striking in some science fiction-tinged way, and 'losing' her as a partner I think shattered him as well as 'losing' with the V. The two things ran parallel.

Big Ls to accept.