Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 134

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: When would you comply?

[(Anonymous)]

No and No.

With lockdowns and vaccine mandates, what you have is a very small group of people deciding what is best for the whole of society. It is not possible for such a small number of politicians, bureaucrats, and academics to know everything they would need to know to successfully implement such policies.

With covid, most of these people had zero qualifications and zero knowledge to be making the decisions that they were making. The politicians were all completely scientifically illiterate. Ditto for most of the health and medical bureaucrats. Many of the lockdown plans and measures were the products of bureaucrats who didn't really have a clue about any of the science. They were about as realistic as a five year plan.

Even the scientists that the governments were getting their advice from weren't necessarily fully informed in all of the relevant fields.

Here in Australia, none of the scientists advising the government or being quoted by the media seemed to be experts in corona-viruses. And there were various experts who were often in the media pushing the vaccine mandates, but if you looked into their backgrounds they turned out to be social scientists rather than immunologists (Katie Atwell, Deborah Lupton, Julie Leask). And if you looked at the social media of the small number of academics who were frequently quoted in the media, they usually turned out to be covid-zealots and left-wing activists.

Right from the start of covid, I also got the strong impression that there were some serious gaps in our knowledge of respiratory viruses. For example, there was the confusion in the first half of 2020 about whether covid was transmitted via surfaces or via aerosols. I mean, they've only been studying corona-viruses for the past 50 years. Surely the transmission mechanism should be well understood by now.

Given all the above, how can the government claim that they know what's best for the whole of society?