ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 132

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

They are forming circular firing squads in anticipation of the truth. Front running the storm. And no, don't expect apologies but blame shifting and scapegoating. And there are plenty of candidates. Science as a religion since the 1700 or 1800s. Celadon

Speaking of scapegoating, this weekend British PM Rishi Sunak was confronted by a couple of irate fox-injured Scots during a live meeting hosted by GBNews. After the predictable passive-aggressive double-speak response, Sunak said:

“The last thing I’d say is we went through a pandemic like everyone else. At the point where it came to the vaccine, those decisions were always taken on the basis of medical advice from our medical experts to tell us as politicians who are, obviously, not doctors, about how best to roll out the vaccine, what was in the public health’s interest, the priority order, how that should be done, who should be eligible – that was something that doctors recommended on and that’s something that we followed.”

Translation: “Don’t blame me for your damaged heart, you stupid prole – it’s the doctors who’ve done you in!”

4-minute video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWJyEB7MkkY

I've been waiting quite a while for something like this to be said by a head of state. Too bad that medical doctors tend not be the 'torches and pitch forks' kind of people! (Either that, or Rishi is lucky that I'm not a British doctor! 😊)

Ron M

Except it wasn't medical doctors per se, or at least not your everyday, in full time practice, doctors.

Politicians took their advice from bureaucratic public health committees of "medical experts", made up of people including some qualified to practice, but not actually practicing a great deal, some health administrators, some pharmaceutical researchers and marketers and random assortments of others.

It's occurred to me more than once that the Covid debacle could be used as a means to enable states to cut medical budgets, and free up all the resources currently going that way. First, give the medical system everything it wants (This isn't the first time they wigged out over a bad flu; anyone else remember the Swine Flu Panic of 2009?); then when it falls apart, pivot, and take advantage of the complete breakdown in public trust in the medical system to shred it. This might not even have been intentionally planned this way; but it does seem like a plausible outcome at this point...

I think denial and memory-holing are more likely.

That depends how bad things get. If they get as bad as it looks like they could, there's going to be no way to deny or memory hole things....

You underestimate the human capacity for denial.

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