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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 110

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Because it was never "possession through injection", that sounds more and more like a macabre cyber-wet-punk short story. You had to partake in the zeitgeist of the fear and the hate for this thing to get a hold of you. Maybe the shots make you more vulnerable in some way or another, at the very least they seem to act on the etheric plane... but if evil was this easy, we would all be living in Hell on Earth by now.

If you see a simile in the Jonestown affair, the kool-aid may have put an end to their misery, but what poisoned them were Jim Jones' words.

I'm not the poster you are responding to but I have to say, I have never heard the phrase 'macabre cyber-wet-punk' before and it sort of dances in the air.

I'm sensing 'On the Waterfront' blended with 'Blade Runner.' :-)

If you see a simile in the Jonestown affair, the kool-aid may have put an end to their misery, but what poisoned them were Jim Jones' words.

Thank you, for your response I really think this describes it well.

Do I neee to add that although he is old he thinks this war with Russia is a good thing, it looks there is a corelation between hating Russia and the mandates, the most was seen in the Baltic countries. Strangelly Ukraine, Bulgaria and Romania are an outlier in this.

I personally hold the view that geographically the fall of the narrative will manifest in some tectonic shift into the Warshow Pact Countries. I base this on the fact that with the war in Ukraine there was a weakening of the narattive.

I'm not sure, myself, that the Ukraine war is what we think it is. Earlier in the war a friend stormed off (actually) when I didn't condemn Russia.
I see it now as a 'not war' (I've been reading a couple guys and they have rather convinced me) - a 'not war' that immensely profits oligarchs in Russia and Ukraine ---- and as well the New World Order replacing the USA with China primarily, and Russia second, Russia is pure WEF, Soros etc...

---- and as well the New World Order replacing the USA with China primarily, and Russia second, Russia is pure WEF, Soros

While I agree that Russia wants a New World Order with China, a Fair World Order as they say, fair for Russia not for me and you, I don't think Russia is WEF, and Soros, personally I think WEF and Soros are both fronts for CIA just by checking Venn Diagrams between their common organisations and causes. So I doubt CIA is Russia.

Vladimir Putin is an old associate of Klaus Schwab, Herman Gref of Russia's main bank (SberBank) is on the WEF website as an associate, and the government is pushing for digital currency, clot shots, and mass immigration just as hard as any of the "Satanic Globalists" that Putin is allegedly standing up against. See Riley Waggaman's blog for more info: https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/

That Ukraine war is a (double-sided) scam of the first order. Brutal.
Slow-motion Lahaini.

Kindly do not keep pushing this, as it has been debunked many times, here and elsewhere.

If you step away from the caricature of Putin by the western press, evaluate his actions over the past 2+ decades (he came to power in 1999), he has played a brilliant set of hands with the cards that he was dealt with, saving the Russian state and putting things in motion to help restore balance to the world (not hyperbole).

The link you shared - I'm surprised that you can't tell that the author is literally making almost everything up, and it's just full of projection of what is happening in the west, he says is happening in Russia. Seems like that's par for the standard of western-aligned propaganda nowadays.

I'm currently based in SE Asia, and I can tell you from my perch here that in the greater sweep of history, Putin is likely to be viewed extremely favourably as a leader and statesman. As a matter of coincidence, I was recently watching a video where a respected mystic was asked when he felt that astral tide began to change for the better..... he mentioned 2 events, with Putin's ascendency being the first event. Trump's election was viewed as the 2nd... from a bigger perspective, the hypocrisy and ineptness of the effetes became fully exposed, and their increasingly draconian measures should be viewed as a sign of flailing in desperation, not of how much power that they actually still hold.

the hypocrisy and ineptness of the effetes became fully exposed, and their increasingly draconian measures should be viewed as a sign of flailing in desperation, not of how much power that they actually still hold.

That is a great quote, I needed that, they still hold so much, that it makes you despondent, that they are invincible, helps you keep the grip when in fact you see them in panic.

As a prime example of the 'power' which the effetes wield... yet ultimately in vain... just think back to the largest ever air defence exercise ever held by NATO which ended around June 22/23. All the forces were assembled... and voila, Prigozhin launched his 'coup' attempt on the 23rd. Within 12 hours, all the leading western presstitudes (like NYT) had more than half their front pages devoted to the coup, forcasting how quickly Putin will fall and the likely chaos to come etc. The theory was that NATO would then be invited into help settle the situation ... as those NATO forces had already been waiting in the neighboring countries. Prigozhin had apparently been paid/promised anywhere from 2 to 6 billion dollars, with likely half upfront to launch his coup... and he was suddenly hailed in the western press as the Russian savior, when just a week prior, he was cast as the evil russian mercenary.

Yet within 24 hrs, the entire coup attempt was shown to be a sham.... barely a shot fired... and super eggnog on all the western 'analysts' and reporters faces.

That's why when someone repeats that Putin is affiliated with the WEF/Klaus etc, I just go... erm, real world events have consistently shown otherwise...

Unfortunately the western population have only two versions:
- that Putin will somehow help them, which even if Putin is genuine he will help Russia's own population.
- or that Putin si just another WEF puppet and somehow, he makes this war to implement the Plan.

So we are to believe the commentator who is based in SE Asia over the commentator who is based *in Russia*, who is supporting everything he says with links *from the Russian government*. But the latter is apparently just "making everything up", so we can all go back to sleep and trust Big Daddy Putin will save us all from the evil globalists tomorrow (trust me, he's playing 5d chess, you guys wouldn't understand).

If you wish to remain in your cosy world of good-guy Russians vs bad guy globalists, then that is your prerogative, but if you would like me to refrain from posting reputable material from a reliable source based in the very country he is reporting on, and who is topical and relevant to these open threads, then I'm afraid I cannot grant you your wish.

In all seriousness, can you actually point me to where Riley has been discredited? Like, properly dismantled with actual specific evidence that isn't just "he's a Western shill, he's making it all up, I'm surprised you can't tell"?

I'd like to suggest that it's time to draw a line under this conversation, as it's veered very, very far off topic for this forum.

"Not-war" seems to be the right term! Indeed Russia never declared war, but is calling this a "Special Military Operation".

"Not-war" seems to be the right term!

Is not in term but also terms and actions. Russia and China go to great lengths to maintain the status quo and don't make the Western elite feel any kind of pain.

Why? Because the way things are going in US and Europe are so distructive for the West that Russia and China needs to maintain this as long as possible...

America, (or rather the corporatist elite that runs it) is senile and demented, but still dangerous. Crazy, deluded, reckless and armed to the teeth.
"Handle With Care" is probably the guiding principle of the foreign policy for Russia and China as it should be for any other nation that has to deal with it.

'Not-war' in terms of not really fighting a war to win a war. Something else is going on. Something weird and strange. Duplicitous.

As Bobby Dylan once said, '
Al the criminals in their suits and their ties
are free to drink martinis and watch the sun rise...'

At least they died quickly after drinking the koolaid. This is draaaaaaaggggggiiiiiinnnnngggg ooooooonnnnnn iiiiinnnnn slooooooow moooooootionnnnnn.

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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 110

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