ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 110

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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It's not even fall yet but in the last two weeks I have four co-workers who all got rather sick, presumably all of them having received the "vaccine". Two with covid, two with mystery illnesses.

I don't remember a time in my life where people were missing work so much before the weather has even turned cool. There is a part of me that wonders how much of this could be psychosomatic – one sees the people around them getting ill and then they get ill. If it's actually "real" illness at this time of year, I am worried about what the winter is going to look like just from the standpoint of friends, coworkers, and loved ones becoming sick, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

jmg - you stating that this period may "well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster" has me concerned. I can see the pieces lining up for a rather brutal season.

Wishing strength and good health to all.

I really do think that the one thing that will save this from becoming a true mass-catastrophe, if there will be anything, is that the problems involved in manufacturing and storing mRNA vaccines resulted in somewhere between a quarter and a third of those injections being essentially inert slush. My older brother received four injections, and it's my fervent hope that at least the final three or middle two of those were that very inert slush.

Do you know the result of improper storage is inert slush and not something else?

I'm clueless about what it really is - this inert slush - but I hope its not something a psycho would dream up like the idea for a sci-fi thriller

From what I've read, RNA is generally unstable outside the cell fluid and generally decays to nothing. So, best case would be inert slush.

Question is: How well were they able to stabilize the stuff and which parts were most stabilized? If it's an inert section, few worries (although one wonders if there's such a thing as truly inert genetic material), if it's the section of mRNA that creates turbo cancers or contains both the original spike plus a way to imbed the genetic material into the genome we're in trouble.

– Donald Hargraves

Yes, if this was normal mRNA, it very quickly breaks down. But,

a) They intentionally altered the structure to stabilize it. Does anyone know what happens with this synthetic mRNA? Does it break down in the same fashion? Does it produce any unexpected byproducts?

b) What about the adjuncts? Do those break down, and what are the results if they do?

I would love to know what the lifespan and environmental fate of this modRNA is. Last I heard someone offer an imformed opinion I think the body tries to eliminate it but sometimes it collects in the lymph nodes? But honestly I wish I have a primary antibody or a dozen raised against it and could do some immunostaining and work out whether it's still around and where it's going. Usually phosphate compounds are scavenged very fast by environmental microbes, but there are situations in which artificial molecules defy breakdown such as where they are produced in industrial processes that have the 'wrong' levo rotamer for biological enzymes to handle.

Murky Impudent Llama

This is going to turn into a cultural thing innit? Like with smoke breaks were for smokers, they just get to work less than you, because, well, just because.

So we'll have sick breaks for the vaccinated. They just get to work less then you because, well, just because.

Well, you might as well follow along. Claim that you need a sick break too.

Or not. Employers aren't supposed to take into account who uses all their sick leave and who doesn't, when they have to downsize... but they totally do.

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