Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 108

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This article by Igor Chudov suggests some across-the-board immune suppression is going on:

https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/pfizers-covid-vaccine-causes-vaids

Caveats: the study only looked at children, the testing was in vitro. Take with salt: Big grains.

But if this means what it looks like it means, then the vax is dampening immune response to *everything* not just to coronas. They looked at staph, influenza, hepatitis, and listeria. This might explain the recent uptick in several infectious diseases we don't normally have to worry about, but it's impossible to say for sure.

[(Anonymous)]

A minor correction: it's impossible to PROVE for sure, as not enough time has passed yet for the necessary scientific proofs to accumulate.

Saying it for sure is quite possible, and quite a few people are doing just that. Whether they also publicize whatever communications from higher powers, deep intuition, or divination results led to their unexpected surety is entirely optional on their part. In our current progressive materialist culture, their arguments may not come across as being anywhere near as compelling as throwing about easy-to-falsify statistical data in a great obfuscating cloud. On the other hand, putting too much trust in the statistical props that failing élites end up clinging to, in the vain hope of softening their impending impact, is what got us into this unenviable situation in the first place.

Many commenters on this blog are perfectly comfortable saying exactly what is causing the recent uptick in infectious diseases, despite our not having reams of easy-to-falsify statistical data ready at hand. Certain compelling myths are perfectly comfortable acknowledging their inherent nature as inspired narratives, while others sheepishly try to hide their true nature behind a pretense of being statistical facts.

— Christophe

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I'm cautious with claiming proof or certainty, without mountains of incontrovertible evidence to back it up. It comes from a lifetime of knowing things, without being able to explain how I know them, and then not being believed.

But it is settled many times over in my own mind. Everybody's got their own evidence threshold, so I try to put the bits and pieces out there as neutrally as possible, trusting that people can draw their own conclusions.

Plus, sometimes I read it wrong ;)

VAIDS-- rising rates of infectious disease

[methylethyl]

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/inevitability-thursday-august-31

Childers over at Coffee and Covid notes that Monday, Ethical Skeptic was crunching the CDC numbers for deaths from bacterial and zoonotic infections. C&C reposts his graph, but frustratingly doesn't link the original post. Does anybody know where Ethical Skeptic's original post for this is? I'd like a link to it. I'm not seeing it on his substack, which hasn't posted anything since July. If it's twitter, that'd explain it-- I deleted my account and now I'm pretty much locked out unless someone posts a direct link.

Anyway, Ethical Skeptic's number-crunching strongly supports the VAIDS vaccine theory-- a sharp overall rise in deaths from all infections is exactly what you'd expect in that scenario.

If that's what we're looking at... well, I'd expect to see, current or near future, a concurrent rise in diseases we don't normally have to deal with much in the US, in populations where you wouldn't expect it: stuff like Tuberculosis, hepatitis, staph infections, maybe even food poisoning (salmonella, listeria, e. coli), plus greater lethality of normal stuff like strep, flu, pneumonia etc. Possibly even a resurgence of childhood diseases that we have purportedly effective vaccines for: measles, mumps, chickenpox, whooping cough...

Re: VAIDS-- rising rates of infectious disease

[p_coyle]

maybe handwashing could come back into vogue? i know it was foolish for covid, but i bet it's good vs. some of the diseases you mentioned that we're not used to getting.

Re: VAIDS-- rising rates of infectious disease

[scotlyn]

Was handwashing ever not in vogue?

Re: VAIDS-- rising rates of infectious disease

[(Anonymous)]

Handwashing was emphatically not in vogue, once upon a time.

Re: VAIDS-- rising rates of infectious disease

[p_coyle]

i guess i should have said fastidious, compulsive handwashing, like during peak covid mania. the radio station said to sing the chorus of sweet home alabama while washing your hands because it lasts 30 seconds.

i wash my hands when they need to be washed, but depend on them to provide germs that help train my immune system when they're not covered in mud or worse...

everything in moderation and whatnot.