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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 97

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I am rereading old Magic Mondays, and have just come across a profoundly troubling old post, on a particularly nasty form of magic.* I found it today, and while it’s relevant as a Magic Monday question, it’s also profoundly relevant because it may help explain a lot of the oddities of what happened starting out in March of 2020.

Simply put, someone was talking about a series of workings they had been given access to by people who despised Trump; and that at least some of these workings included "and may all who ever support him die". These were apparently widely disseminated in the part of the occult community that person was part of; with the typical confidence that everyone agreed with them that so many people with severe TDS show.

Someone else then came up with a way to monkey-wrench these with the intention that anyone who cast that working and then supported Trump, on anything, would die. I wonder if someone else, maybe even several other people, might have thought of something a little broader, and used some of the workings in the Magic Resistance in combination in order to strengthen this intention to make it target all Magic used against Trump; I can see a few ways to do it myself, and worry about what people who have more training and more interest in this might have come up with. This was back in 2018; so it clearly didn't activate right away.

Fast forward to early March of 2020, and there were people in both sides of the aisle supporting both taking drastic action and doing nothing about Covid, and a huge number of the really weird and troubling elements of what would happen next were confined to the fringes, or did not even exist yet**; but within days of Trump’s declaration of a national emergency on March 13, suddenly everything went haywire in a stunningly rapid and bizarre fashion. I’d attributed it to the fact that once such an emergency was declared people panicked, but it always seemed like there was more to it than that.

Trump’s still pushing the vaccines, and a huge number of people seem stuck on this issue, unable to see the reasons it's dangerous and unnecessary. The only two people I know who were involved in the intersection of alt-right politics and occultism also heavily agree with Trump here, and are adamant about vaccines being needed in order to save lives. Both of them questioned the medical industry heavily prior to this, so it is a sharp about face, and has me wondering what is going on here.

All of this is taken together suggests an uncomfortable hypothesis: what happened starting out in March 2020 was that the workings aiming to use the ones aimed at causing any who supported Trump to die to make it such that anyone who used magic against Trump and then supported him would die lay dormant, waiting for a trigger.

These were all suddenly activated in March of 2020 when Trump declared a national emergency over Covid, to the cheers of many in the left, and so these workings found the most convenient way to earth out, and kill the people targeted, and this is why things got so weird, and why the vaccines were so rushed, shoddy, and absurdly poorly tested. This is also why so many people who opposed Trump were so eager for these vaccines, and why the Magic Resistance, and so much of the occult community in general, got dragged into this mess.

JMG,

I hope you don’t mind this quasi-Magic Monday question, but does the above hypothesis seem plausible to you?

*https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/16587.html?thread=558283#cmt558283

**This is not to say the response up to this point was sane. However, it was not confined to the left like it later would be, there was at least the pretence of cost-benefit analyses, and many of the more drastic steps, like banning anyone from seeing anyone they were not living with, or closing all schools, were dismissed as impossible, absurd, and dangerous, even by Governor Cuomo as he launched one of the most dramatic responses outside of China.

However, within days of Trump's declaration of a national emergency, suddenly all of those were being put in place, and the supporters did not seem to notice their sudden about face.

I enjoy Trumps rhetoric and the outbreaks of acute TDS that result from his various pronouncements. In the unlikely event he gets back in, he should challenge Putin to a Tweet-off.

However, as someone from outside the US, the fact that he is seen as some sort of saviour is baffling. That view applies here too though. I remember being at the anti-jab demos in Canberra and chatting to Aussie ex-military guys who were calling Trump the "President of the free world". WTF?

Either he was duped with COVID and the jabs and can't bring himself to admit it, or he's just another controlled opposition figure.

Biden vs Trump represents the ultimate Hobson's choice and is symbolic of how broken the Western political system is.

I-identify-as

It would be ironic if the magical resistance was the architect of its own destruction.

That would explain a lot of what I am seeing in my circles.

Well, the universe certainly loves irony, so on that basis alone....

Both of them questioned the medical industry heavily prior to this, so it is a sharp about face, and has me wondering what is going on here.

Well this settles into my brain making a horrible kind of sense.

I've been questioning for a while now why so many of the pagans/occult-types/witches/etc I know and those in the broader circles I travel in have been so...easily taken in by this whole psyop, to this day supporting it with mandatory C19 vaccinations for in-person events.

Similarly, a lot of these folks I know were the types to question the medical establishment and pharmaceuticals. Even those who needed to take pharma drugs for certain reasons would still question Big Pharma on the whole; now if I say "Big Pharma" they call me a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

It has been truly baffling to me, the about-face. Your hypothesis sounds plausible to me, at least as one part of the puzzle.

(Note: I'm in Canada, but TDS levels up here are similar, as is an obsession with US Politics. I go so far as to say our national discourse has been poisoned with it, to the point where many Canadians aren't even aware of what's happening in our country because they're so invested in what's happening to the south of us. If they are aware, they parrot media talking points that paint everything up here in similar colours as in the south, as if we only have 2 sides and one is Bad.

The pagan-types I know up here are generally no exception to this problem.)

I'm appalled to say that yes, it does.

I've suspected for quite a while now that the stunningly inept use of evil magic by the Magical Resistance was behind a lot of what's going on. This may well be part of that.

I was really hoping you could tell me I'm wrong about something, but since it looks like it might be accurate, I suppose then the fact that the post I found this from, as well as the first discussions you had on the topic of the Magic Resistance, came from March of 2018 (2 years before the Covid madness) might very well be a synchronicity....

If it is, then it has another troubling aspect to it that didn't occur to me right away: this may only be happening because someone from the alt-right monkey-wrenched those workings. I imagine this carries some nasty karma, but I can't imagine that having a working you cast that calls for death earth out in a form which will kill millions can be good for your health....

Do you think the people who cast such workings are likely to end up dying as this plays out?

Depends on intention, presumably. Maybe their karma is just that they will get to live in a world which is brutally fair.

Except, if the intention was brutal fairness, then they'd work towards that. It's the same critique of the Magic Resistance: the working aims at causing harm to people. There were, presumably, plenty of other ways to defuse that working, and the caster of the above working went straight to trying to kill the people casting it. That may very well be justified self-defence; but it is still using magic to try to kill people, and that gives me some pause.

Well, if the above speculation is accurate, then it looks like this mess wasn't just the Magic Resistance, but also the monkey-wrenching of one of their workings. In which case, although I don't have time to look for it right now, it is deeply troubling to me that I remember that there were people who had strong intuitions and divination saying not to touch the Magic Resistance's workings with ten feet poles; there was also speculation that the demonic forces being called were crafting particular forms of blow-back into their workings.

Given all this, I'm profoundly troubled by the fact that a disturbingly large fraction of the alt-right dove into the Covid madness...

I think you can see the double-blowback in the COVID event.

For the Resistance themselves, COVID is itself the blowback. Something Progress was supposed to have "beaten", something that can't be easily contained or controlled - the best shot at doing so would have been, very early on, to shut down the borders... but that, you see, would have been racist.

For the freedom-loving alt-right monkey wrenchers, the response to COVID - i.e., the lockdowns and mandates - were likely the blowback, in much the same way that their monkey-wrenching was their response to the Resistance.

FWIW, the guy who originally brought the phrase 'alternative-right' to public awareness - Richard Spencer - went full-tilt on Covid, and last I checked was shilling for Ukraine. He started a website in 2010, after being fired from the American Conservative for being an obnoxious edgelord, called AlternativeRight.com - I believe it was the first time the phrase had been used.

It actually wasn't too bad, in fairness - he came across as a sleazeball, but they had some very good writers on there (Paul Gottfried, Keith Preston, Jack Donovan, and Andy Nowicki all spring to mind).

I wonder now if the specific channel it took might be related to Ebola-Chan. Depending on exactly what the alt-right mages who worked with that did, it may very well have played a role in the creation of the appearance of a plague, and then the vaccines.

Dear gods what a mess....

Thank you for pulling forward this old Magic Monday thread... wow.

The whole thread is stunning. It reads like it was all written yesterday, but this conversation occurred a whole year before coronavirus ever hit the streets, to say nothing of the shots. The foreshadowing is Hollywoodesque.

-- Cicada Grove

This is part of what bothers me the most. As I'm rereading these, there seems to be a certain amount of foreshadowing whenever the Magic Resistance comes up....

So, the 'conversation' with the demon/s ended something like this?

"You wish for great death? It will be accomplished, my master."

The Ninth Mouse

I doubt that this hypothesis can be the whole story. It is US-centered, but early 2020 basically all of humanity went bonkers with the exception of Africa. The magical resistence was mostly an American phenomenon.

If there were dark forces involved, perhaps they were called upon by Gaia? The group that is hit the hardest aligns with the group that guzzles up most of Gaia's resources, aka the PMC-class in the first and second world countries.

The magical resistance has members on every continent thanks to government programs that send progressives around the world to spread it, except for Africa.

No, the Magic Resistance was not mostly an American phenomena; I know people from Australia, Canada, Mexico, Europe, etc. who got involved. This was one of the weird parts of it: it drew people from the PMC classes from all over the world. And oh dear gods, something just clicked.

Australia, Canada, and Europe got hit pretty hard by the blowback because those countries were full of people casting spells to try to interfere with American politics using magical methods, which were calling for the destruction of foreign powers interfering in American politics...

I was about to write the same, that this would mostly cover the US (and very few other countries). But there has been covid madness in pretty much all of Europe (including certain parts of Russia, as far as I‘ve read), in huge chunks of Asia and South America, and (if memory serves me) there were also things like vaccine mandates or passports in some African countries (although I might be mistaken there, it‘s been a while that I read about it).

Funnily enough, though, I don‘t think I‘ve ever read anything about the covid response in North Korea… :D

Anyway, if anybody can explain how the effects of TDS and the related workings could create such madness in such a variety of countries, I‘d love to read about it - I simply can‘t imagine how this could have worked.

To me, this was the weirdest thing which creeped me out the most: how so much of the world went completely bonkers in lockstep. That, together with the creepy vibes from this whole episode, makes me think there was something „non-human“ behind this all. But whether TDS and the response to it played such a major role… dunno - but I‘m open to explanations if anybody has them. :-)

Milkyway

The astrology around 2020 was pretty bonkers. I wouldn't be shocked if conditions were ripe for some heavy, malefic magical energies to get grounded out. I've heard scuttlebutt that at least one famous globalist billionaire uses high level astrology to further his goals in grubby ways. I wonder how much damage a billionaire with access to Picatrix level astrological magical techniques could do?

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Milkyway,

Here's how this works as I see it: in every country, there's an elite class that sets most of the policies and cultural thinking for said country. In plenty of nations, this elite social class is at least partially bought off by the American Empire; in some cases, they could survive but would lose an enormous amount of the perks they currently enjoy if the empire goes away; in others, they're dead without the ongoing military and financial support of the US. Even in countries such as Iran and Russia, where the social classes that run things at the moment are not tied to the US in this fashion, there are almost always competing power centres which are, and which would, if given a chance, happily take over. These are extremely vulnerable, since without the constant military, financial, and propaganda support of the American Empire, they are uncomfortably likely to end up dangling from lampposts, and even if they avoid that fate, their current perks depend on supporting Washington in local power struggles.

One of the core mechanisms by which the empire functioned was by the creation of new dollars, which could be used to gobble up huge amounts of overseas wealth, which was only possible without catastrophic inflation because a rapidly increasing amount of international trade was done in US dollars. This is why "free trade", where an ever increasing fraction of economic activity requires international trade, is so important to the empire: it's the means by which these dollars can be sent into circulation outside of the US, and thus can be created without causing a hyper-inflationary episode.

This constant outflow of dollars though caused a major economic imbalance in the US, and one side effect of this was the destruction of the factories and other manufacturing jobs which used to provide the working class with a huge percentage of their jobs, and a very large portion of the well paying ones. This played a massive role in plunging millions of Americans into poverty, and in depriving millions more of their ability to support their families without taking handouts; this is a very big deal to a lot of working class people: the inability to support a family without needing assistance has caused major psychological trauma to a lot of the working class.

Trump went on the offensive here, and, perhaps aware of what he was doing, perhaps not, started attacking the core of the American Empire's wealth pump; take free trade away, and the ability to print dollars on demand goes away; the end result would be the collapse, or at least drastic reduction, of the empire. This would result in a massive realignment, not just within the US, but around the globe; and this would see plenty of people who currently hold power suddenly lose it in dozens, if not hundreds of nations, and the core of the empire (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Western Europe, Japan, Taiwan, Israel) very suddenly lose a lot of international power and with it a lot of wealth; for at least two of these, this would in fact be an existential threat.

This meant that the elite classes around the world had every incentive to fight it, but there's a bitter irony here: their self-image said that they should be fighting for their own nation, and in many cases their home country has been ruined economically by free trade. In fact, one of the more brilliant elements of the American Empire is the way that since each nation raised its own elite class, they could reliably be counted on to fight each other, and try to push more of the costs of the empire onto other countries, instead of their own.

Suddenly faced with the fact that their interests were not aligned with those of their countries, and faced with the prospect of needing to defend a system that, up until this point, many of them had been fighting because of the damage it did to their own countries', the elite classes worldwide suffered mental breakdowns. TDS thus set in in not just in the US, but around the globe as people suffered meltdowns due to the cognitive dissonance associated with Trump; especially once it became clear that his rhetoric was not just bluster, but that he intended to try to keep at least some of his campaign promises. Meanwhile, since the US has spent decades using vast sums of money supporting "Progressive" movements around the world, there's a lot of support for the sort of magic which the Magic Resistance did, since the neo-pagan movement was, until quite recently, widely considered "Progressive".

The end result is that a huge number of the Magic Resistance workings were performed all around the world; and it seems likely to me that when they earthed out, they would have earthed out not just in the US, but in every society where the elites were involved with them. This is also, of course, also ignoring the very real possibility that other groups used magic of their own to try to attack Trump; which merely tosses in another wild card into the game.

One thing that really amazed me BEFORE all the Crow-vid lunacy was during our near-yearly trips to Ecnarf (my wife is French, and most of her family lives there) the folks there would be super-eager to ask about and disparage The Orange One, but when I’d ask about their upcoming Presidential elections they’d respond “Pffft, who cares…” as if presidential politics in the USA was FAR more important and consequential than the politics of their own country!

Really head-scratching. But if you postulate some sort of enchantment, it perhaps makes a bit more sense.

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In my experience, Gaia doesn’t collaborate with dark forces. There are some gods who will do that at the drop of a hat, but that questionable habit will usually jump out when reviewing the myths about them. Obviously, Gaia is a chthonic deity, well within the infrared/yin spectrum; however, she is a balanced and balancing expression of yin, very different from some of the more troubling of the chthonic energies.

So many mythologies place all the chthonic powers of hell deep inside the earth that Gaia can come across as being hellish herself. She’s not though. If anything, she’s more the gatekeeper, keeping all those chthonic forces underneath her from imbalancing the world by surging up all unrestrained. Were she weakened, more of those forces could then escape to wreak havoc, but she’s not going to call them up herself. That would go against her nature, and, given that she IS nature, that would pretty much be the universe going against itself.

On the other hand, Gaia in her divine balance is perfectly willing to work with other balancing forces, such as Karma. The resource guzzling PMC-class has had some rather interesting karma coming its way for a very long time now. Maybe Gaia just thought it was high time for them to enjoy the fruits of the harvest they had so enthusiastically sown behind themselves with nary a thought for the consequences. I rather doubt that it would have taken much arm-twisting to get Karma to go along with her, if Gaia did decide the time for harvesting was ripe.

— Christophe

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