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It's almost midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note: Any question received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says.

The picture? I'm working my way through photos of my lineage, focusing on the teachers whose work has influenced me and the teachers who influenced them in turn. Like Allan Bennett and George Cecil Jones, who were introduced over the last two weeks, this week's honoree was a teacher of Aleister Crowley. Theodor Reuss was a German occultist and Freemason who, like our past honoree Sylvester Gould, was a member of the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light, the successor order of the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor (HB of L). He founded and headed the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), a magical lodge originally envisioned by Austrian occultist Carl Kellner, which passed on the occult traditions of the HB of L and certain specific teachings that originated in another of our earlier honorees, African-American occultist Paschal Beverly Randolph. Reuss passed on the teachings of the OTO to Crowley and eventually made him the head of the OTO in the English-speaking world, setting off a cascade of events that would make a first-rate melodrama or a really good tell-all book. Since I'm not a member of the OTO, my only connection with any of that story is that one of my teachers was taught by a student of a student of Reuss...

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Good Evening,

Big thanks to JMG for the Modern Order of Essenes attunement yesterday, and I hope March is not coming in like too much of a lion for everyone here.

To Share: I've tried to put together a short(ish) summary of Jordan Peterson's approach to analyzing myths. The short version is that it's a simplified/abstracted take on Jungian archetypes, and it's helpful for a wide variety of stories, even if it's not the best-suited tool to every story: https://jpowellrussell.com/#jordan_peterson_s_framework_for_myth

To Ask: JMG, if you're willing to share, I'm curious what doing the MOE (or similar) attunements is like from your end. Do you get a clear impression of the folks on the other end, or something more general? Is the timing of the interchanges very specific, or more general? Again, if you're not able or willing to share, no worries, I'm just trying to use this as an avenue to better understanding ritual and/or astral phenomena.

As always, thanks very much to JMG and everyone else here.

To any who will have them, I put forth my blessings and best wishes,
Jeff

“Those readers who have worked with the Greater Mysteries degrees of the Dolmen Arch will recognize some similarities between this material and the work they have learned. The two methods of healing are not identical but they're closely related and can be combined. Experimentation will show how to do this.”

I have avoided asking any questions about this combination due to this comment, but I have reached a point where I feel like I do need to get some input on the results of experimentation to determine how to best proceed with the MOE training. I interpreted “they’re not identical but can be combined” to mean that I could learn to do both as entirely separate practices and then later consider layering them in a healing session. As such, I’ve been mostly keeping MOE practice to early in the day and DA practice to late in the day.

For most of my time with the MOE material, I haven’t felt anything moving between the hands during the healing hands empowerment or when using the healing hands. In contrast, I do feel the energy moving when using the Dolmen Arch techniques quite strongly. I also feel the Healing Jewels heat up during empowerment, clearly feel the palm centers active throughout the day, and feel like empowering the palm centers in the morning increases my ability to sense and work with nwyfre in general and in particular makes work with the Dolmen Arch healing circuit even stronger. Judging by results, it also seems that in spite of not feeling it, I have successfully used the MOE healing technique to good effect.

The issue is that I’ve regularly gotten to the point where I feel like I can start to feel energy moving during the MOE healing technique, but it doesn’t feel like it’s exclusively coming out of the right palm and entering the left palm, rather like it’s coming out of both and kind of “wants” me to open the above and below connections of the DA technique. Basically, when I start to feel it, it feels like the DA technique, and I’ve kind of pushed this feeling to the side, assuming I’m making a mistake of not keeping the techniques separate, and tried to force it to feel like it’s only moving in the one way “circle” described in the MOE papers, at which point I feel nothing.

For one recent MOE healing, I decided to take a cue from what I understand to be John Gilbert’s approach, and totally relax and not “try” to feel it moving at all and simply ask the Divine to guide the flow. The above and below connections of the DA circuit immediately opened up, and the feeling during the healing work was quite notable. Further, I feel like the “foot centers” connecting to the Telluric Current opened even more strongly than they have before, to the point where they parallel the way the palm centers are empowered, connecting me even more strongly to the above and below DA version of the circuit. (This was after the Healer attunement, so I don’t know if there’s any kind of foot center awakening expected with that.)

So I’m starting to feel like I should just abandon the notion that “can be combined” means “kept isolated except at specific times when they’re overlaid” and simply let the techniques fully merge in my practice.

But I’ve wondered if perhaps I’m subconsciously retreating to the “familiar ground” of the DA technique that I already know, and if instead I should push through it and keep them isolated in order to properly learn the MOE technique.

What do you think?

Rowr! ;-)

When I'm doing a distance attunement, I generally feel the emotional state of the people on the other end -- if there's more than one of them, there's a sort of jumbled-together quality. I repeat the ceremony as many times as seems appropriate, since some people are always a little early and others are a little late. There's a definite sense of energy flowing, in much the same way as there is when I do an attunement in person. Does that clarify things at all?

The techniques can certainly be merged. I like to encourage people to learn them separately, as you've done, but once you've got both techniques down it's wholly acceptable to combine them, or simply to let them flow together. John used to say that every Essene healer gradually develops a unique personal way of healing, and merging the Essene method with other methods was often part of that. The important thing is to heal, not to heal in this or that way!

I know a guy who got mixed up with the Yakuza several years ago and now his life has fallen apart. He was a respected craftsman but his physical appearance has become a shell of his former self and now he's apparently homeless. Recently he sought refuge in a Zen Buddhist temple to try and turn his life around and apparently once he entered the gates and began to speak with someone they gently took him by the arm and led him back outside.

It sounds like he's got some really awful karma. I remember a story about one of the contributors here who sold his soul to a demon and a mosque took him in. Obviously there are unknown details to this situation, but generally speaking what would you recommend for someone in this predicament? Keep knocking on doors until he finds a place that can help?

Hi JMG,
I have a question about wedding / engagement rings. My apologies if this not in your area of knowledge. I have a ring from my parents wedding, which was rather tumultuous and chaotic, including infidelity. I am interested in a couple options to use the ring as an engagement ring for my partner that would probably become part of her wedding band. I am on good terms with both of my parents if that matters in this process. I am looking at 4 possibilities for the ring.

1) Cleaning with vinegar and then alcohol and using it as is.
2) Having it modified by a goldsmith with some other either lab-made or antique gems (maybe aquamarine, her birthstone) and maybe some additional gold as needed and then giving it to her.
3) Have the goldsmith remove the diamonds, and melt down the gold to remake a new ring with a new design and perhaps use those same diamonds and/or any other good gems I can find.

4) Have the ring melted down and donate the money to charity (ie start completely fresh). Buy or have a ring made that has lab-made gems or an antique one that feels right.

My questions are -

1) Is there anything in these processes (the cleaning, the modifying, the melting down) that might cleanse any of the what I'm going to call 'negative energy' this ring may have absorbed from my parents' marriage?

2) Is this ring a bad idea in general? Does it not matter since I am a result of my parents marriage?

3) Anything special I should do with any gems I come across if they are to be used in a ring?

My partner has expressed an interest in not having freshly mined gems, etc because of the working conditions surrounding them. I imagine whatever gems I add should be found on one of my/ our hikes ie probably non-precious at best or should come from a good situation. I have no occult training so can't perform workings, and am not a member of any church or religious organization that could bless the ring.

If there is a body of knowledge or books you know of that you'd rather refer me to that would also be much appreciated. The information out there I've found so far looks heavily clouded with marketing.

Yes. He needs to get his life in order, and probably needs a lot of help to do so. A Zen monastery probably isn't the right place for that, but I don't know what other resources might be available in Japan.

I would very strongly encourage you not to use that ring at all. An antique ring or newly made one with better energy, preferably one that doesn't include diamonds -- those correspond to Mars and tend to produce quarrels -- would be fine. Aquamarine would be a very good stone to use -- it's a variety of beryl, like emerald, and has similar peaceful and harmonious energies.

To JMG or the commentariat: Is anyone aware of any tradition within Christianity similar to the Jewish Qabalah? I’m looking for a system of individual spiritual development similar to the Golden Dawn, not a church community. I would prefer to avoid reliance on a priesthood, or having to assent to any specific dogma.

That’s interesting that you can feel emotion at a distance but have trouble perceiving it up close. I tried asking Sonkitten if the same is true for him but the topic was a bit over his head.

—Princess Cutekitten

Don’t use vinegar! It could wreck the finish.

Another possibility is to skip the ring altogether and put the money towards house improvements, the possible appearance of a baby, charity, or whatever. My father had a ring but didn’t wear it for decades, as he worked with machinery. He was going to resume wearing it when he retired but by then they couldn’t find it. He didn’t recall pawning it when they were young and poor, so they figured it went walkabout during one of their moves. The lack of a ring did not keep the marriage from lasting 67 years, 364 days. (He died the day before the 68th anniversary.). So don’t be embarrassed to do without. Love and loyalty reside in the soul, not on a finger.

Also, congratulations, and I wish the two of you a happy 68 years!

Princess Cutekitten

I lost my glasses about 6 months ago. We took the house apart with no luck. I figured I had knocked them off my night table into the wastebasket, then obliviously emptied same the next day, especially since frequent appeals to St. Anthony did not lead either of us to the glasses. I kept putting off getting new ones in hopes of finding them. This was not a big problem as I’m old enough to be getting farsighted, though I do need them to read grocery-aisle signs.

Now. The other day I was kneeling atop my bed dusting. My glasses fell onto, and bounced off, the back of my heel. The angle was such that they had to have fallen straight down. If you’re wondering how I knew it was my glasses, I can only assure you that nothing in this world feels like a pair of glasses falling from the ceiling and bouncing off your heel.

Any idea how this could happen?

—Princess Cutekitten

Hi JMG

1: I'm hoping you can help me clarify the nature of non-physical perception. In the past I've thought that losing awareness of the physical body was a part of most experiences but I've started to question that recently.

I've been trying astral projection using the method you've described here before of building an astral form and then moving my awareness into it. During the "projection" I'm aware of my physical body at all times but I'm also getting impressions from my projected form.

Is this dual perception common?

2: Does planetary charity still work if you only promise and make one donation on the right planetary hour? I'd expect it to not be as effective but would it backfire?

Thanks
Sea Spray

The Cabala was taken up into Christianity during the Renaissance and there's a very rich and extensive tradition of Christian Cabalistic mysticism and spiritual practice. The book I recommend as an introduction to this is Gareth Knight's Experience of the Inner Worlds. Knight was an Anglican Christian and this book of his is entirely focused on Christian esoteric spirituality. You might also look into Martinism, which is an esoteric initiatory tradition with a Christian focus; there are Martinist lodges all over the world these days.

The traditional explanation was that such things were taken by the fairies. Having had things like that happen to me, too, I tend to think there's something to that particular tradition!

1) There are modes of inner experience that are hard to achieve while you're still aware of both bodies, but the basic experience of being in two places at once -- yes, that's quite common, and it's not a hindrance except in some specific kinds of work.

2) Depends on the planet. I wouldn't risk that with Saturn -- he's very picky about doing things just so -- but most other planets will either give you a mild version of your request or shrug and decide you didn't want it that much.

2: I'd been thinking of doing that for mars as it is intersected in my natal chart. As he would also be on the less agreeable end of things I might give it a miss.

Thanks!

I have a question about the origin of kyrrmis from your Weird of Hali series. I had thought that they were an original idea, but I have recently come across a cartoon called Booba and the title character looks very much like what I imagined a kyrrmi would look like. He even behaves and has adventures like I imagine a solo kyrrmi would.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt6581428/

Booba is a russian cartoon and I can't find any english explanation about what he is.

Are these fictional depictions based on the same cryptid?

Is more to this tradition? I've had similar things happen that prevented regular activities from occurring and then, weeks later, the item would return in a place I could not have missed. It's happened several times throughout my life.

I got the impression that disrupting the routine was the point. Though I wasn't sure who the beneficiary of that interruption was, there was a sense that some calamity was averted.

I have another question for JMG.

When using SGO for daily divinations I get confused by two paragraphs of interpretations given for each card in the accompanying book. One begins with “When it appears in reading” and another with “In practical divination.”

So, I’m not sure I understand the difference between the reading and practical divination. Could you kindly clarify that for me?
Thanks

Wha happens if someone's karma gets out of sync with what their soul needs to learn? If a soul needs a specific experience but hasn't accumulated the karma that would lead to it, which takes priority?

Dear JMG,
If you've been following the events in Ukraine at all, you might have seen coverage of the increasing use of pagan rune-based symbols on the Ukrainian side. This isn't new: the extreme nationalist/neo-nazi movements in Ukraine have been using them for years, but now they seem to pop up everywhere on uniforms and even at official functions.
These symbols were, of course, extensively used by the Nazi Waffen SS as unit symbols. The Wolfsangel, for example, was the symbol of the Waffen SS Division "Das Reich," which not only murdered its way around the Eastern Front, but committed brutal crimes in France in 1944 after the Landings, most notably the infamous massacre of the population of Oradour-sur-Glane. What's extraordinary is that French TV recently broadcast a sympathetic portrait of a female Ukrainian sniper whose uniform prominently displayed this patch.
In answer to criticism, pro-Ukrainians have said that these runes long predate the Nazis and anyway they've been used for decades by rock groups and in popular culture generally, so they have no significance.
My question is, is there anything going on here? Does the use of runes associated with the Waffen SS have any real life consequences? What could be the implications for western nations of uncritical support of forces that use these symbols? Is there a chance of some kind of magical blow-back?

Hello!
Last week there was a very unusual question asked about an ancient symbol of prosperity that was misappropriated.

JMG replied: "Er, if you mean that to be vague and hypothetical, it didn't work; I know which symbol you have in mind, and why."

Initially I thought the OP referrd to the Swastika, but from the reply it is clear we are dealing with a current matter. Is it possible to have some details? It sounds so intriguing and mysterious...

Many thanks!

Hi JMG thanks for all you do. I have been trying to integrate a three cauldron system into my healing practices. Reading the comment about the "DA technique" is interesting. Have you posted anything about that in a previous post/writing?
Cealin

Hi John Michael,

Just 2 questions this week. As always, thank you for answering and for providing this unique space. My week is always better for it, whether I ask a question or not.

1. How can one go about increasing one's personal etheric energy for health, vitality and healing purposes?

2. What are some methods you are aware of, and that you can share, that can aid the manifestation of Spirits during evocation?

Thank you,

A

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