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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-08 01:46 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     

Re: breaking the binary

[personal profile] kashtan 2022-11-10 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't watch the Oregon governor's race closely, but it seems common for third party candidates to poll relatively high a few months before the election then have their support dwindle as the date approaches. I'm used to seeing this in races where the candidate never had any numbers as high as 35% so I've always attributed it to people jumping ship to vote for the major party candidate that they consider the lesser of two evils once it's increasingly clear that the third party candidate isn't going to win. 35% could have been enough to win a three-way race though, so it's discouraging that so many people fell for the propaganda even after all we've been through the past few years.

You make a good point with #2, the physical and mental fragility of modern Americans throws a wrench into any predictions. The military is finding it hard to find enough people who pass the physical exam these days. However, the rich and powerful might think they can get around this by bringing in mercenaries from parts of the world that don't have as much of the modern, climate-controlled, safety-focused lifestyle.

As far as #3 goes, I agree that the divisions in modern America are very different than they were in the 1860s, and any modern civil war will be very different from the previous one. What concerns me is that during the Civil War, the regions where loyalties were divided often suffered most of all, even if they weren't in the path of the major armies. Families were divided, and warbands used the lawlessness of the war as an excuse to ravage the land. Cities/regions with different loyalties than the surrounding areas had a rough time of it too, an example being Knoxville, TN which was a stronghold for unionists in a confederate state.

Other nations also may have interest in provoking civil war here in America and destroying the heart of the American empire. I already wonder how much China is adding fuel to the fire through influence of social media. If civil war does break out, the complex map of political loyalties could make the outcome worse than if the majority of regions were clearly on one side or the other.

Re: breaking the binary

(Anonymous) 2022-11-11 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ang Lee made a very good movie about Missouri, a border state with substantial (perhaps majority) pro-southern sympathies.

And as for the changing populace - not sure a month's worth of hardtack and beans is gonna replace 'take out' to most people's (soldiers') satisfaction.