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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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"...No one I could have voted for would have carried out any justice, and in fact they would've prevented it from occurring. So I didn't vote to support their oppressing me further. They are going to do what they are going to do and I'm working on ways to counter it."

Thank you stcathalexandria for this wise perspective.

I’m in Hawaii and the same thing is going on here as well. The establishment worked so hard to tweak the election system in order to maintain their grip on power, and now that they’ve “won” it’s truly strange watching them all celebrate what will inevitably be their own downfall.

I know the red tribe is more popular here, but the gubernatorial candidate you apparently favored against the "slime ball" [why?] Democrat was a genuine extremist, not just favoring overturning elections - which turned out not to sell well in swing states - but self-identified as a Christian nationalist. How would a leader coming in with a focus on Christian nationalism ameliorate layoffs, heating oil shortages, influenza, or kids doing poorly in school? I would fear that, lacking the willingness or power to affect such real-world difficulties, he would seek to distract from them by persecuting non-Christian or presumptively liberal scapegoat groups.

Consider your rhetoric. "These people, destroying themselves or this country is what they want to do." No doubt you'd say it's terrible when some of them demonize your group, but when you demonize them, it's just appropriate because they really are evil, those crazy peacocking expletives?

And please don't sneer at the desire to defend democracy. Many independents like me would be happy to vote for some Republicans but not if we think it's the last meaningful vote we'll get to cast. Specifically: if Trump's on the ballot in 2024 and our state votes against him, we don't want our electoral votes just taken by the state's rulers and handed to him anyway, as Mastriano evidently would support. Showing contempt for that position implies that opposition to Trump is illegitimate per se.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

i'm grateful that you always call us out on our fears scribbling outside the line. speaking for myself, i am scared of the same thing you are: The Othering.

i'm sorry that St. Catherine Alexandria withdrew her comment because now its deletion makes it seem scarier than it was. we're BOTH hella scared.

i'm glad that Temporary Reality captured a wisdom by re-quoting a good part.

St. Catherine Alexandria: my first advice (you didn't ask) is to let what you say or write sit stand or lie, and deal with the fallout.

you act as if Papa slapped your hand. he did not. he was just coaching TONE like a director. if you run away and hide YOU CHEAT US of the learning because i had to re-read you to understand Translucent Jejune Octopus' concern, which is totally legitimate.

so yes! i see this "good girl" you'll have to get to know and calm down as you emerge as your emotional, testing, artistic, daring self!

trust us to handle YOU, St. Catherine Alexandria. you're already fascinating as you are. don't further cheat us out of this new fun stuff as you emerge or bring forth another side of yourself.

you've been here a long time and deserve to be messy, evolving, and have us struggle to understand you and handle your pain and terror.

thank you again for FEELING me! that means the world to me.

x

erika

JMG could have been slapping my hand but I just didn't want him have to deal with emotional posts to read through.

I'm not a binary thinker and I don't see the news or read a paper so I have no idea what politicians are portrayed as. I just know what I know from talking to people in government, through the grapevine, good old fashion gossip. So when I call someone slime ball it's well earned. I can't blame the guy though - that's the way the game is played and he's a player.

I remember at one point JMG posted somewhere that he started these posts because our world were falling apart. They really have haven't they?

It's been one hell of a time.

Thanks being on the ride even when I've been angry, sad, frustrated, and ready to slap people.

I noted the weird all year and looked for beauty. The 2023 question might be - what if my life was lived as art?

Papa can take very good care of himself. Trust that... so don't anticipate to save him. You cheat you and me when you edit your emotional reality. If you lived 2023 like art you would stop deleting anywhere and be open to spontaneous fresh human naked and loving moments.... like here and now..

You defend yourself and wanna be liked and I say this i like you real and emotional and excited.

Even the ochre curmudgeon can take care of herself. ...a dude wouldn't have cared.

You cheated me and us by taking yourself out as you were. This is classic female stuff and where a lot of our rage comes from, for in your head bowing out and behaving will net you something in return.

What it is is different for each game player and the source of much agony because we are rarely ever up front about the terms....even to ourselves.

So I dare and beg for more scribbling outside the lines from you in 2023 because as a woman i crave more passionate emotional daring honest women like yourself. And you're brand new at this so it will be wobbly at times....yes plan many apologies but art needs air laughter forgiveness and all the snot placenta bones and screams.

If you are not safe as well as encouraged to fly and fxck up after all the love and sweat and time you've put in here...where oh where can you?

Xxxxxxx

Erika

Seeing right through me. Right through!

I'm copying and pasting this so I can keep re-reading it until it makes new grooves in me.

"The Othering" - that's such a good way to put it. I think this habit of whipping up viciousness towards "the others" is far more dangerous to our society than either the disease or the vaxxes. Above someone was touting a speaker who in the most literal sense dehumanizes people who got a vax he dislikes. In the last week I saw a mainstream media writer still pushing the ideas that Omicron arose from dirty unvaxxed people and that the good clean people should still be vewwy afwaid to have Christmas lunch with the unvaxxed or "incompletely vaxxed." These people are standing on opposite sides of a chasm throwing rocks and feces at each other.

But there are still some of us middle-grounders who just stand towards one side or the other and maintain positive relations with people just standing on both sides. And to me, that chasm looks more like a crack in the sidewalk. Lots of people step back and forth over it as their information or beliefs change, or even straddle it. And from where I'm standing, I can reach over it and hold the hand of someone on the other side who's equally tolerant.

Same goes for political party affiliation, of course.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

Turning deep chasms into narrow cracks that are easily bridged seems like a worthwhile exercise to me. :)

Many months ago it was said somewhere on one of these Covid posts: "99 out of 100 of all the storm troopers you see are cardboard cut-outs" -

It may be worth adding that, taking the whole of human complexity into account, "99/100's of the chasm you see is a painting on the sidewalk."

https://metanamorph.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/The-Crevasse-people-posing-1442x1082.jpg

Which is to say, that it is easier to put a little "policeman" or a little "scary monster" or a little "reason to be suspicious of others" into a person's head and get THEM to make all the subsequent moves, than it is to mobilise enough actual policemen to control every single person, or deploy actual scary monsters, or actually MAKE the neighbours existentially threatening in every case.

To resist having someone else's little ectomorph take root inside us, requires that we discern well WHICH is the one stormtrooper that actually needs to be fought, and WHICH is the chasm that is unbridgeable, while letting the other cardboard cutouts and sidewalk paintings dissipate of their own accord.

I'm going to ask that this particular conversation stop here. It's gotten way off topic, and it's a subject about which (obviously) people feel very strongly -- thus, things being as they are, likely to turn into a screaming match.

This is a forum for discussion of Covid, not a general political forum. Please act accordingly.

I deleted the offending comment. I apologize to you and the readers here for taking the conversation off track.

i knew what you meant and thank you for the larger perspective regarding justice. i needed that.

xxxx

erika

Philly girls know.

(whistling)

You are making me tougher and softer at the same time - TY

You are making me tougher and softer at the same time

yessssss.... and for another Philly girl to get this on a molecular level, i feel like we are those quantum mechanic particles, separated, but shimmying on opposite sides of the country. no lie. that you GOT THE tougher and softer thing, i was in a haze all day yesterday. i was blue about the world but still-- being UNDERSTOOD is like being hit with a baseball bat of LIGHT for me. thank you for getting this, WORKING this. you've got some serious tits going out like that.

ah...Philly Girl, YES.

TY BACK!

x

erika

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