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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-08 01:46 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

Smudge for the winAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.     
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Lunar Apprentice,
I will be passing on all responses, including yours, which contains much useful information. As the situation develops, one way or another, there will be decisions for her to continue to make. My best, as always!

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You are boosting hilarious. Got any memes?
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that sounds a useful way to bring a person's "life knowledge" into the conversation, along with their "book knowledge".

Personally, I think the fact that doctors are human, complete with a unique lived personal history, is such a bonus. I cannot but wonder at those who fancy that an AI could do the job better (or at least more "evidence-based"). ;)

Thank you for your prayers.
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much!

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a saying (which I'll probably garble) but something like:

"Irish diplomacy is telling someone to go to h*ll and having them look forward to the trip."

It's completely possible to insult someone with skill and elegance. Wish I had that skill!
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, JMG, for this, and also for the general hosting and moderating of these gatherings. :)
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Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Just in passing, I've been wondering if there is a date cut off between volume 2 and volume 3?

As always, many many thanks for doing this.
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Re: Another IM Doc post

[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have a link to this comment's location?

Kyle Sandilands' Get Vaxxed Baby, 2021

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Transcriber here. For a while now I've been transcribing things that have been censored or shadow-banned, but it occurs to me that it would be worthwhile to transcribe a few items here and there that had plenty of play in the MSM back in the day, among them this catchy little public service tune. (Gosh, was this only a year ago? The comments there on YT are quite something, by the way.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNbmUYF_xNo

Kyle Sandilands, "Get Vaxxed Baby" 2021

TRANSCRIPT [PARTIAL]

Get vaxxed baby
oh oh oh oh oh!
Alright stop! Vaccinate and listen!
We are back with a brand new injection
Someone grabbed a hold of you tightly
Rolled up your sleeves whether daily or nightly
Will this ever stop? Yo, we don't know
But stuck in lockdown really blows
Too many people think vaxx is a scandal
Take two shots and covid's handled
Pfizer or AstraZeneca
Hmmm what rhymes with AstraZenca?
Oh yeah America
One of a hundred places you could travel to
So just relax
Lay down your tinfoil hats and just get vaxxed
So we can go back to the old ways
Shaking hands kissing strangers all day
Get vaxxed baby
That's right
Get vaxxed baby
What are you waiting for, it's there!
Get vaxxed baby
You want to sit at home your whole life unvaccinated, mmm mmm
Go get in the vaccination line today
Get vaxxed baby

1:00
[END OF SONG]
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[personal profile] scotlyn 2022-11-09 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This one liner...

"But I was trained to see what is going on before my eyes, to process it with whatever data I had available and to immediately begin working with my patients on what I am seeing. This is ESPECIALLY SO in an emergency when little is known. Unfortunately, our federal health officials have done everything possible to squelch this approach."

...bears witness to the conflicts shaking the position and effectiveness of every single doctor in today's healthcare systems. They are trained to be clinicians, and hired to be bureaucrats, and the cognitive dissonance, on its own, must be crazy-making. And, on top of that the whole regime of punitive actions against anyone trying to stay true to their clinical training, which makes them bad bureaucrats...

Re: International Travel Ban

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It was strange, but after I went through it, like another comment there seemed to be no enforcement or follow up whatsoever. Which begs the question as to why it's in place at all...

Re: Masks

[personal profile] dabilahro 2022-11-09 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd add a 4th bucket, for people who just don't care about following what rules are needed to get on in their life.

I know some people who don't care either way who wore masks when it was required just to not be a hassle to the employees in those places who did not set the policies.

Re: The Great Denial

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to get group emails from a cultural curator who actually called it The Plague.
He seemed quite committed to alarmed consternation.
His wife, I assume after numerous shots, went blind.
Granted she was very old (officially old!) with previous medical conditions. And yet....
I mean, I don't know.
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Re: Voted against Covidianism

[personal profile] methylethyl 2022-11-09 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, in my state at least we had some resistance to the madness, and I'm content to have those people continue to run things (pretty much everyone I voted for won-- no surprise-- but it won't make any difference to the rest of the country).
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Re: mundane question for at-home medical care

[personal profile] methylethyl 2022-11-09 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the look of a functional kitchen.

When I see magazine kitchens, all I can think is "nobody ever cooks here!"

Needless to say, mine never looks like a magazine kitchen ;)

Re: Belated response to MARK...

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
PS: forgot to sign my thought.


Fuchsia Exasperating Griffin

Re: Layoffs Just This Month

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The point is that people got the vaccine due to employer mandates, and now they don't have a job.
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Re: Voted against Covidianism

[personal profile] methylethyl 2022-11-09 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Justice will come in the end, for all of us. Maybe not in this life.

Never ask for it without mercy, though.
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Re: International Travel Ban

[personal profile] methylethyl 2022-11-09 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure the ban only applies to non-US-citizens. If you're a US citizen (dual or not), you shouldn't be affected?

The horror of it, is that it *does* affect people who are non-citizen legal residents, even those who are married to US citizens. I have heard a number of stories about such people having to move their families outside the US in order to be together.

Re: Layoffs Just This Month

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
These companies enacted vaccine mandates in the late summer to fall of 2021, and 12-15 months later the employees who vaccinated to keep their job ended up losing it anyway.

So if they had walked away last year and kept themselves vaccine free, they would have kept their morals and pride and be able to look for work without competing with tens of thousands of other similarly skilled people.

Now they are vaccinated, losing their health insurance at some point, and are now scrambling to figure out employment.

Feels like karmic blowback a bit.

Re: Masks

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what **they probably think** they are signalling, I'll grant you that. To me they are signalling that they are gullible goody two shoes all in with jabbing everyone including babies with poison.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Dr. Paul Alexander: ‘Not One Healthy Child Has Of Died' In US Since Beginning Of Pandemic

https://rumble.com/v18ue4m-dr.-alexander-not-one-healthy-child-has-of-died-in-us-since-beginning-of-pa.html

June 17, 2022

TRANSCRIPTION

STEVE BANNON: How can we possibly have the FDA approving—and they seem like they're obsessed— to approve the vaccinations, the vaccines for the babies. Walk me through this. I don't understand how this could happen given all the information that's come out now, and I particularly don't understand the obsession, and it is an obsession they have, to get it into kids under five. Dr. Alexander.

DR. PAUL ALEXANDER: Hey Steve, once again, it's a real honor to be here. Look, let me get to the point. When we look at all of the data, we look at data out of Sweden, out of Germany, out of the UK, we look at data by Martin Makary Johns Hopkins, we look at all of the Nordic nations, we see that the risk of death in healthy children, young children, young infants even, is basically zero. In fact Sweden, Germany, and these places record no deaths in healthy children in this age group. Martin Makary's group Johns Hopkins showed us that, I want to be clear how I make this statement, in United States of America since the beginning of this pandemic, not one healthy child has gotten infected with covid and died.

[TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE: see <https://palexander.substack.com/p/makary-the-flimsy-evidence-behind>
which references this research]

I want to say it again so the public can hear it.

In the United States of America, during covid, from day one to today, that's almost two and a half years, not one healthy child has gotten infected with covid and passed away. Period.

There is no data that Fauci, Francis Collins, Rochelle Walensky, anyone in the Biden administration, or anyone even in the prior Trump administration, has shown us. There weren't any child. This is reckless, this is dangerous what the FDA and CDC has done.

They have no data, Steve. And what they have done is, they are relying on trials and studies that are very suboptimal and methodologically flawed. They are deliberately undersize, in terms of the sample size being small, and they deliberately shorten the duration of followup. So you, the reader, don't realize that they cannot detect safety signals because the duration of followup is so short, the safety effects can't emerge. So what they are doing is deceiving and misleading the public. And they are using crazy procedures like immunobridging. They are not looking at the patient important outcomes that you as a parent, you as grandparents, need to know.

Does this vaccine, let me be clear, does the Pfizer Moderna vaccine cut the risk of hospitalization or death or ICU? Patient important hard outcomes. There is no study that Pfizer Moderna has done, none, as of this moment, to show that these vaccines are effective in reducing hospitalizations or death. What they have done is they've run studies on antibodies, which means nothing to us because antibodies are not a proxy for immunity. So right now we are being misguided and misled with this flawed, and I actually say fraudulent, studies.

What the FDA has done here and the CDC is wrong. And I want to go on record Steve by saying, this is the hill that parents must battle on. This is the hill that parents must be prepared, must prepared to wage their largest battle. No child should be given these vaccines. Absolutely none. There's no basis. Your child is at zero risk, statistical zero risk, of severe illness or death from covid. You stand up and you say no.

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More info about Dr Paul Alexander at
https://www.drpaulalexander.com/

Dr. Alexander's Substack:
https://palexander.substack.com/

Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It should be one post in common, I'll check

Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments

(Anonymous) 2022-11-09 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
you're welcom

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