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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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This is how our entire public school system is still going. "My kids must suffer as I suffered..."

I've 'dialed up' the Tessa Lena interview with Latypova. I don't know who either of them are but the 'artist' angle got me. Will watch a bit later, thank you.

It's pretty much an Option 2 world, isn't it? It's not cynicism, it's realism.

What are the legal bounds of this actually?

It would appear that it is OK to say, in general, Treatment X is good or Treatment X is bad. That might be denounced as "misinformation" but carries no specific legal risk.

It would also appear to be OK to tell personal stories: "I had Condition Y and did Treatment X and it worked for me."

It is *not* legal to say: "you, Person Z, appear to have Condition Y, so you should try Treatment X." Which is to say that it would appear to be *diagnosis* and *prescription* that are specifically prohibited.

As for providing particular recipes or protocols for Treatment X, that would appear to be OK as long as one refrains from recommending them to any specific Person Z who asks "should I try this?".

Am I missing anything?

Tell me about it. I have a pretty good "dangerous people" radar. Pretty sure it's nothing whatever to do with body language or social signaling, because I'm epically terrible at reading those things. Just some people-- get an instant horrible vibe from them, all the internal alarm bells go off, for no reason that I've ever been able to pin down or explain to others. Often find out much, much later *why* I needed to stay far far away from them (like, after the arrest). In the meantime, I avoid them, keep my kids away from them. Other people don't seem to see it, and any time I've even *mentioned* it I get shot down for being judgmental or irrational. So I don't try anymore, I just do what I can to keep myself and my kids safe. It's an animal-level danger instinct, and I think most people have it, but they suppress it in order to fit in socially.

In Orthodoxy we have terms for stuff like this. There are different kinds of knowledge. There's the kind you can know by proxy, through your senses, and then there's the kind you can know directly, through your nous.

I think a lot of us sensed that there was something going on with covid and the shots, beyond what was available to the five senses, the rational information. And as modern western industrial people, we have a really hard time describing, integrating, or sharing that knowledge. But if anything, that knowledge is more real than the sensory kind, which is just a proxy. I *think* other religions have some descriptions of this. It's not something I've studied. But at least in our understanding, the more humble you are, the more repentant, and the more devoted to God, the more receptive you become to direct knowledge, and the better you can become at discerning the difference between your own thoughts and biases, the physical surface world, and what's really *real* on other levels. Being human, and all made in the image of God, we are all *capable* of perception on that level. So it stands to reason that anything with a huge spiritual component moving it, is going to be perceived by a lot of people, on *some* level. The hard part is being able to resist it, when you've been trained and socialized to ignore information that comes through that channel.

It is almost like... clocks. We all have them. We use them to tell how much of the day has elapsed, and we're so used to them, that we often fail to pay attention to other ways of knowing what time it is: light levels, the position of the sun, moon, stars, shadows, the songs of birds, insects, and frogs. In addition, we let the clock impose a certain regimented perception of time on us, that our forbears did not have. The clock stunts our ability to *wait* and rushes us through the day. What happens when the clock is wrong? We don't notice until things go very wrong! We are late! We are early! But it's rare to first question the clock! Is the clock telling you the truth, or pushing you away from truth? You'd need to have a sense of time formed outside the use of clocks, to be able to tell, no? But we all have access to that, if we care to exercise it.

Brandon is in Cambodia too, where he thanked the prime minister of "Colombia" for acting as host. But that's okay. Cambodia and Colombia are not so far away from each other: They're on the same planet and it's a big universe. I just hope that American ICBMs are a bit more accurate. As for Cambodia, there really is nothing there. Something like Canada.

I have been wondering how much of the current flu waves are being driven by the flu jabs like with what we saw with the cov jabs and here is a post from https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/influenza-vaccine-is-perfect-example looking flu jab effectiveness? The comments are where a lot of the action is with people reporting in the past of coming down with the flu a few weeks right after getting flu jabbed.

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/the-smallpox-pandemic-response-was has talked about this historical process with regard to the smallpox jabs.

One idea is that one of the many viruses occupying the human body at any one time is a latent version of the very thing being jabbed against, and the jab activates what was previously latent?

Basically, if you care about bodily autonomy, the red side does not look like a reliable champion.
Also, if you care about bodily autonomy, the blue side does not look like a reliable champion.

As has been said elsewhere in this thread... there are no reliable champions, which means, basically, that *we* are up!

You can spend 579 hours a day on Twitter and not really get a feeling for "what's happening" because the Twitter algos will game you.

Could you link to the podcast? I would really like to think he did not take that position, but I would like to see the evidence first.

I've been reading for a long time. I used to give money. I stopped when NC was so hysterical about Sweden being a COVID Disaster. I skim the links every morning and water cooler. I let them read the news for me. Anytime I read news stuff on msn or yahoo, I'm shocked how awful and propoganda-like it all is.

IM Doc comments are worth reading, I agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SWMqzM_Sg

Yes, billionaire interests and commoner interests are rarely the same. That being said, they can occasionally and unexpectedly line up pretty closely.

Musk bought out Twitter for chump change in order to protect the rest of his ill-gotten gains from being stripped from him. He witnessed the very public beta testing for the newly minted “hostile takeover by Wokesters” that managed to depose Jack Dorsey from his own company right under his nose. Call it Color Revolution reworked for corporations, rather than nations. Musk identified that Wokester Takeover would end up entailing a technological and ideological suite as impervious to resistance as Color Revolutioning once had. That is, if it were given the chance to work out the obvious bugs and Achilles heels its beta testing had revealed... and Musk was taking copious notes!

Musk had no interest in letting Gene Sharp's potent ideological weapon be recrafted to expel him from Tesla, SpaceX, or whatever other subsidy dumpsters he's riding to riches at the moment. His billionaire interests may have included zero concern for the rest of us, but his endless self-interest managed to dismantle Wokester Takeover before it could be perfected into the unstoppable juggernaut its proponents were counting on. Hence the considerable rending of garments, gnashing of teeth, and licking of wounds going on in Woke safe-spaces of late. As for the ridiculous overvaluation Musk happily paid for the Twitterverse, it was nothing compared to the real value of the vulnerable assets he protected with his strategic intervention.

Of at least equal benefit to us commoners, Musk's great purge of the Woke ideologues from Twitterdom (or is that Twitterdumb?) effectively dismantles “hostile cancellation by Wokesters,” which had managed to take out so many celebrities, journalists, points of view, and entire narratives. Call it Color Revolution reworked for individuals, rather than nations. The uncontrolled dumpster fire raging in all the social media stocks at the moment reflects the late-dawning awareness that, no, they won't ever be able to deliver on the total social control they were so ambitiously forecasting for their investors.

The lack of creativity exhibited by the idiots hoping to win by applying the Color Revolution model to everything, just as its original playbook ceases to be able to deliver up any goodies whatsoever, is one for the history books. There's nothing quite like a senile elite class to make a new age inevitable. Musk will join the ranks of the senilities soon enough, but for the moment he still has some elegantly creative plays left in him. For all its considerable flaws, self-interest remains the cornerstone that capitalism is built upon. When yours happen to line up with some billionaire's, you become the most unlikely of allies, however temporarily.

- Christophe

Thanks for the links. The parallels are striking. Adam Curtis' BBC series on Russian history 1985-1998 is called TRAUMAZONE. There are many moments where the falsity of life in a society operating under a collapsing total planned system triggers reflections on our own state.

And, of course, our host's thesis of collapse, be it catabolic or, as I confusingly posted some time ago, cataleptic.

Is it any wonder that Gibson's deft story of The Jackpot, The Peripheral, is now trending...

Edited 2022-11-12 22:33 (UTC)

That's no surprise! No worries, it can be viewed at this link:

https://www.oraclefilms.com/safeandeffective

That webpage notes:
"The documentary was removed from YouTube on 26th October 2022 under the pretext of alleged "medical misinformation". At that time it had accumulated over 990,000 views and 7,000 comments."

Funny, I have just been transcribing an excerpt from an interview in which RFK Jr talks about the meaning of "misinformation."

PS
Rumble has it:
https://rumble.com/v1lwbgs-safe-and-effective-a-second-opinion-2022-oracle-films-news-uncut.html

and BitChute:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2t5lPLsqgD99/

Dr Campbell has decided to walk a fine line himself. The balancing act requires a verbal shtick that is likely to shred itself.

His pretend act is not sustainable,

The people migrating from Twitter to Mastodon are the same ones who made Twitter the screaming pit of left-"liberal" insanity.

Not going to sign up on either one anytime soon.

Transcriber here. I found this one in my files, from way back in March. But the mask-nuttines continues in many places this fall, alas. I found this short speech inspiring; perhaps you might, too.

MEDICAL SPEECH PATHOLOGIST (& FRANKY'S MOM) BLASTS THE MASKS

From:
https://moms4freedom.org/moms-in-action
Hillsborough County School Board, Florida
Public Comment, March 9, 2021

16:15
MICHELLE BUCKLEY: Hello, and thank you for allowing me to speak today. My name is Michelle Buckley. I'm the mother to a bright three and a half year-old boy named Franky. I'm a medical speech pathologist and my husband is an internal medicine physician. We live in South Tampa.

I am here today to advocate not only for my child but for all of our children. Requiring our children to wear a cloth face covering in order to participate in their publicly-funded education is not only morally and ethically wrong but it is unconstitutional.

A cloth face covering when used for source control is considered by definition to be a medical device according to the FDA.

I stand here as a medical speech pathologist, a mother, and the wife of a physician to use my voice to say that Superintendent Davis* is not a medical doctor and if he was he would need to provide true informed consent before recommending the use of a medical device.

Doctors do not mandate the use of medical devices. They recommend them. And the consumer decides whether or not the recommendation is for them.

I stand here today not to try and convince the School Board that masks are neither safe nor effective in this setting with this population, but rather to stand here and speak to all of you, as citizens of the great United States, to remind you that the US and Florida Constitutions are the great law of the land.

Superintendent Davis does not a seat a publically elected position. He does not have the authority to make laws. There is no law that requires a child to cover his or her face to enter the grounds of their publicly-funded school.

I am here to be a role model for the parents who know in their hearts that masking their child in order to keep them in public school is not right. I am here for you. I am here to show you that you are not alone. Peaceful noncompliance is simply the refusal to participate in that which is morally and ethically wrong and unconstitutional.

Peaceful noncompliance is the personal choice to stop participating in a system that is unjust. And I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

18:02
[END]

# # #

TRANSCRIBER'S NOTE:

*Addison Davis, Superintendent of Schools for Hillsborough County Public Schools
https://www.hillsboroughschools.org/page/558

Good question. I tend to be very cautious about this because entrapment using charges of practicing medicine without a license is one of the standard ways that inconvenient social critics (cough, cough, Wilhelm Reich, cough, cough) get removed from circulation.

Brilliant piece by Neil O. Thanks for sharing!

On a related note, Moghul emperor Akbar created a religion that was a hybrid of Islam and Hinduism, which he tried to foist it upon his subjects. It ignited like waterlogged wood; that is, it was a total flop.

Pseudo-religions and religion-substitutes are doomed to have a short shelf-life because they lack depth and come from the intellect not the heart and therefore do not resonate with the collective unconscious of the populace; nevertheless, they can wreak a lot of havoc during their short ‘life’ when wielded by powerful people. Let’s hope that today’s ‘Akhenaten’ is as inconsequential and futile in his/their efforts as the original.

Ron M

"A cloth face covering when used for source control is considered by definition to be a medical device according to the FDA."

Got it.

"Superintendent Davis does not a seat a publically elected position. He does not have the authority to make laws."

Got it.

And this is really interesting— I mean, at what point is it deermined by an algo, and/or in some cases, an actual person who makes the determination to kick someone off YT, or take down an individual video?

By the way, I myself have had 3 things taken down from my old Google blogger blog, none of which had anything whatsoever to do with anything that might have merited that. I could ony conclude it was some sort of mistake made by the algo.

Well, Dr. Campbell is at least giving us a bit of 1984-sque theater for now. And it seems he's doing it quite well. And that in itself is surely waking some people up.

Thanks for sharing this.

Bonfire of the Senilities!

Enjoyed this Musk opinion Christophe.

My ex-partner turned me onto The Secret of Roan Inish, a wonderous beauty.

Also the very old Disney movie Thomasina, another delight.

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