ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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First, I would like to see a direct question from an actual person or at least some sort of regularly named poster other than an ubiquitous Anon, but that is perhaps trivial as an objection.

i, erika lopez, second that emotion.
the medium is very much the message regarding the dissipating energy of the internet, and i myself, get irritated at always being the one with my legs open with name address rank social security number, and i'm talking to a safely cloistered away "anonymous" that could be anyTHING.

when i answer anyway, i realize it's for MYSELF. they think they are safe adn they are. safe from ANY real human interaction as i then tend to use them like humping a pillow. it's for ME. then the whole thing is a 'jerk, you know?

so you honor half-assed mixed company with a response that took hours and days to think about... they THINK they "got over" by staying safe and secret and flinging prompts, but...

we feed the beast.

oh well, it is what it is.

tritumi thanks for answering a wussy anonymous because i got it in the spray.

x

erika

There has been a distinctly off flair about many of the posts this week. I wonder if we are getting some outside attention.

Murmuration

I think a comment of our very own Mark L made the rounds in the wider blogosphere, if Im not mistaken.
might have increased the audience

I noticed the same with the same flavour, sort of a faux-sympathetic 'gotcha' feel.........

I've been reading JMG's blogs regularly for certainly over 15 years. It's this sort of conspiratorial thinking - question certain views or even ask what they really mean, and you must be one of Them plotting against Us - that guarantees you couldn't pay me enough to use any portion of my real name or distinctive nickname here. And neither do you, I notice. So I've gotten myself a handle that is as informative as "Murmuration" and will use it from now on, so that you can see which efforts at reasonable dissent come from the same individual.

Does that make a difference in your judgment of what is still an anonymous comment? If an argument is rational, is it not worthy of consideration no matter which total stranger it comes from? Is anyone really more likely to give sincere consideration to an argument if it is identified as coming from a Jejune Octopus? Probably less so, because, when I looked up "jejune" just now, it was defined as "naive, simplistic, and superficial"! Thanks so much, CosmicOom.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

I’m always up for a good rational (and irrational) conversation, and many points of view. The more the merrier. Wasn’t aiming at anyone in particular, just the vibe, and anon is no problem for me. Take whatever name feels good. I’ll interact with the meat of your ideas. I guess if you feel like the shoe fits about the vibe though…well…ok then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Murmuration

Sorry, it was my anonymous comment being attacked for its anonymity farther up in the thread, so I assumed it was, at least in part, me whom you were accusing of being some kind of outside troll. If I misunderstood your intention, I do apologize for overreacting.

-Translucent Jejune [argh] Octopus

Not a problem. If you’ve been here a while, congrats on the new name. If not, welcome to the fray!

Murmuration

from a personal standpoint, i think that just posting as "anonymous" doesn't give enough reference to a voice. i was not named p_coyle by my parents, nor have i went through the process of legally changing my name, but i post as p_coyle. before i signed up for a dreamwidth account i did -p coyle at he end of my posts.

that being said, posting a -(name) distinguishes you from the truly anonymous posters. i don't know who translucent jejune octopus is, nor murmuration or ron m or bofur is in real life, but you put a stamp on who you are in this online community. i feel like they are online friends after all this time.

(erika is a whole other ball of wax. a brave, defiant ball of wax. (luv ya e xx) )

it helps to distinguish voices, and even cosmic oom names give a reference point the rest of us can wrap our head around.

i am loathe to use my real name on the internet. once you commit to posting as translucent jejune octopus, i will at the very least be able to put your posts into a context where i get to know you as a person.

i'm pretty sure some of us agree that some sense of community is lacking in the current situation, and we should encourage building that community even if it doesn't involve exchanging ssn's and bank account info, and we have to do it quasi-anonymously over the internet. these are the times we live in. make the best of it that you can.

Eh, maybe so. I have to admit I come here for knowledge, information and ideas. I recognize regular handles, and a couple are people whom I have learned to respect so I sit up and pay attention when they speak - but I don't feel any emotional connection to them. I don't have any sense of who they are as people, and don't really try to imagine any, or miss that. That's just me, I guess; YMMV. Anyway, I don't mind going along to get along.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

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