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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2022-11-01 11:47 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65

the reason whyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This is from Hughes himself:

"Look around you. QAnon and anti-vaccination conspiracies have deep roots. The essential oil-shilling yoga mom in your kid's playgroup and your "politics suck!" punk rock high school buddy are only one Facebook post away from this madness—if they're not already infected."

It's just incredible to me how doggedly the BlueAnon types are sticking to the narrative even when many in the mainstream are admitting they got it wrong. Or just deleting their previous spiel and pretending they didn't say any of it or calling for 'amnesties'.

hmmm the fallout from this could be truly insane.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a feeling they will just keep entrenching, it’s already well past absurd.

These are people who get their news from approved sources. So do many people around them. Maybe the changes of twitter will make a difference, but I imagine a few articles about how twitter is now a hellhole may drive people to other comfortable places or maybe a new openly censored social network, a place where you can share and bask in the acceptence of sharing opinions with the rest.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-03 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey that reminds me of something: So now I'm sittin' home investigatin' myself!
Bob Dylan: Talking John Birch Society Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCcnJ5kbFMg


Well, I was feelin' sad and feelin' blue,
I didn't know what in the world I was gonna do,
Them Communists they wus comin' around,
They wus in the air,
They wus on the ground.
They wouldn't gimme no peace. . .
So I run down most hurriedly
And joined up with the John Birch Society,
I got me a secret membership card
And started off a-walkin' down the road.
Yee-hoo, I'm a real John Bircher now!
Look out you Commies!
Now we all agree with Hitlers' views,
Although he killed six million Jews.
It don't matter too much that he was a Fascist,
At least you can't say he was a Communist!
That's to say like if you got a cold you take a shot of malaria.
Well, I wus lookin' everywhere for them gol-darned Reds.
I got up in the mornin' 'n' looked under my bed,
Looked in the sink, behind the door,
Looked in the glove compartment of my car.
Couldn't find 'em . . .
I wus lookin' high an' low for them Reds everywhere,
I wus lookin' in the sink an' underneath the chair.
I looked way up my chimney hole,
I even looked deep inside my toilet bowl.
They got away . . .
Well, I wus sittin' home alone an' started to sweat,
Figured they wus in my T.V. set.
Peeked behind the picture frame,
Got a shock from my feet, hittin' right up in the brain.
Them Reds caused it!
I know they did . . . them hard-core ones.
Well, I quit my job so I could work alone,
Then I changed my name to Sherlock Holmes.
Followed some clues from my detective bag
And discovered they wus red stripes on the American flag!
That ol' Betty Ross . . .
Well, I investigated all the books in the library,
Ninety percent of 'em gotta be burned away.
I investigated all the people that I knowed,
Ninety-eight percent of them gotta go.
The other two percent are fellow Birchers . . . just like me.
Now Eisenhower, he's a Russian spy,
Lincoln, Jefferson and that Roosevelt guy.
To my knowledge there's just one man
That's really a true American: George Lincoln Rockwell.
I know for a fact he hates Commies cus he picketed the movie Exodus.
Well, I fin'ly started thinkin' straight
When I run outa things to investigate.
Couldn't imagine doin' anything else,
So now I'm sittin' home investigatin' myself!
Hope I don't find out anything . . . hmm, great God!


Songwriters: Bob Dylan. For non-commercial use only.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
It’s a slow process to have the tide turn. In many of their cases I think they literally receive zero information outside their bubble.

I was on a call with my partners parents today and they had just finished there 5th shot. Talking about distancing, staying away from the grandparents who just had covid (again).

There is no thought there, just that the news and whoever is around echo in the right way. I honeslty can’t picture a full on acceptance of the risk taken on for what was at best a short term benefit.

The move I think from those who allowed this is to just get people to move on to the next thing and the next thing and the next thing.

[personal profile] boccaccio 2022-11-04 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
I remember when Obama was re-elected defeating Mitt Romney in 2012 by quite a large margin. There were newsreports about how many Republicans could not believe Romney lost because they only watched Foxnews and only saw Rasmussen polls. Back in those days that surprised me. Of course 4 years later it was the turn of the republicans to laugh at all the Dems who expected a walk-over for Hillary. We are living in our own bubbles for a while now and it is only getting worse so far. Perhaps the long descend and impending crisis are saving us from total disconnect from each other and the real world by crushing the virtual echo chambers many of us started to inhabit.
Edited 2022-11-04 09:33 (UTC)

[personal profile] dabilahro 2022-11-04 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
No signs of this stopping. Right now it's clear that the existing leaderships obfuscations are severely shaking it's foundations. But in certain circles I see the type of hope and change attitude with the Republicans.

Likely some areas will improve, but at the end of the day peoples lives are not going to get easier regardless of who is in charge. It's always the simpler role to be in the opposition, pointing out what's wrong then it is to try to say everything is fine, please re-elect me.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
One can hope, because these bubbles are very sterile and bland. The best gumbo has all sorts of flavors mixed together.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
if one saw these words

zero information outside your bubble
causes all your trouble

would there be any recognition of

anything?

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[personal profile] tritumi 2022-11-04 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
An anecdote: In 1944, a veteran Red Cross official made an informal inspection of Nazi death camps. Later, the senior BBC reporter John Simpson asked why they had not confronted the Auschwitz commandant, Rudolph Hoss, with the moral enormity of their actions. The Red Cross veteran was shocked as the "very idea of challenging them was preposterous". He said:

"These people were proud of their work. They were convinced of being engaged in an act of purification. They call Auschwitz the anus of Europe. Europe had to be cleansed. They were responsible for the purification of Europe. If you cannot get your head around that you will understand nothing at all."

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The WEF's Fourth Industrial Revolution is in fact the Fifth Reich.

Edited 2022-11-04 06:19 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
💯

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think they need another booster. They get enough boosters, this problem gets solved.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

Don't try to stop your enemies from making deadly errors.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Who is the Them? People of all nationalities and factions got vaccinated. The large majority of our elders got vaccinated because they were at quite high risk from early covid strains. Does that alone put grandma into the category of bad people who deserve to die so you hope she gets lots more boosters? Or just MY grandma and not YOURS? If Fauci, Bourla et al. will go on getting quarterly boosters forever (delayed six weeks every time they get Omicron again) that's fine with me, they can be the lab rats and see what happens. Meanwhile, I take every opportunity to convince my vaxxed-and-boosted loved ones not to get any more boosters, and have had multiple successes.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-05 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Not a participant in this thread till now:

At almost 73 I think I qualify as an 'elder.'

I never felt at 'high risk' no matter what they said or
how hard they tried to get me on a ventilator and kidney-killing medications.


(Anonymous) 2022-11-06 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Same here.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"The essential oil-shilling yoga mom in your kid's playgroup and your "politics suck!" punk rock high school buddy are only one Facebook post away from this madness"

I thought yoga was promoted in Western countries by liberal freaks, and that punk rock was more fond of anrchism...What a bulls--t, Mr Hughes!

-A Spaniard.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-06 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
He's equating the yoga-pants mom at the dog park with a punk rock high school musician because everybody can see how a high-school punk rock musician is not somebody to emulate.

He's belittling her in order to score sketchy rhetorical points.

It's like using the phrase 'conspiracy theorist.' He wants to make something 'stick.'

Some way to belittle 'yoga mom' and her 'essential oils' because 'essential oils' might be a 'gateway drug'

to NON GMO food or even, (GASP!) not taking experimental gene-therapy pharmaceuticals.
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[personal profile] ari_ormstunga 2022-11-04 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*Hughes: publicly mobilizes an army of witches to summon demons and use malefica to attack Republicans*

*Also Hughes: "these retarded conspiracy theorist Republicans think the Democrats are in league with demons and witches har har"*

If they start charbroiling us again it will be idiots like Hughes who brought it down on us

(Anonymous) 2022-11-04 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It's starting to look like your warnings in LRM about how we can't assume that the days when secrecy was necessary for the occultist for reasons of basic physical safety were behind us for good may have been quite prescient...

[personal profile] milkyway1 2022-11-04 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If you don‘t mind: Has whatever little birdie tweeted you this warning also given any hints about whether it would apply everywhere in the world, or just in certain areas?

Milkyway

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JMG,

Is this something you're willing to elaborate on?

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