ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 29

The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments -- to understate the matter considerably! -- so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, as Canadian officials launch a campaign of reprisals against citizens who supported a peaceful protest against government policy, and the words "died suddenly" become the favorite media euphemism of our time, the floor is open for discussion.

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I never thought I'd find myself thinking warm thoughts about insurance companies. By and large -- well, I'd call them scumbags, but the Used Condom Defamation League would probably get on my case if I did. Still, the thought of watching the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry going at each other is a little like imagining a rabid dog and a cobra deciding to kill each other rather than hurting anyone else.

Well, the insurance companies have every incentive to do so: in most countries, since they are all under EUAs, any deaths likely caused by the vaccines is one which the insurance companies do not need to cover. In many, even if it gets full authorization later, if it was under an EUA when the person took it, it's the same.

So insurance companies will have every incentive to try to link every death they can to the vaccine, which could get quite colourful....

I shouldn't be laughing....

Thank you for this -- I had a good laugh! My first jobs out of college were temp jobs, and they were often in insurance companies doing reception work. Those formative experiences are the reason I am an indie music teacher who has been willing to bear the stints of poverty that go along with being an indie music teacher. My observations:

1. Insurance companies are as common as head lice and far less beneficial to their hosts.

2. The scene in any given insurance office is the modern equivalent of a harem. One or two guys float at the top as "sultans" and an army of scheming, miserable women do actual work along with a few scheming, miserable eunuchs.

3. I would much rather be homeless than ever work in such a situation again if those were the choices presented to me.

The literary verve and colour here this week is off the hook... dogs and cobras, sultans and harems... all very effective metaphors that seem, well, just so accurate! Thank you Kimberly Steele and JMG.

I would kind of love to see Big pHarma and Big Insurance conveniently take each other out, for the good of all.

Well if there was any group or organization in the u.s. with a better team of paid lawyers who can find loopholes, rabbitholes, or wormholes in any paperwork or agreement made to not cover something it is the insurance companies.

On the subject of insurance companies being the unlikely truth revealers ... This could potentially blow a few things open courtesy of info. from Germany.

The Bad Cat cautiously tells more here: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/german-vaccine-side-effects-data?utm_source=url

I've read about four posts on this subject today, and as far as I can tell, the info released from the insurance companies is only for the *first half* of 2021, and only covers things doctors labeled as vaccine related.

The mind boggles at the implications. It means that the 244k+ injuries they have in their system are likely the tip of the iceberg. If medical reporting in Germany is anything at all like medical reporting here, it is possible that *most* serious adverse events were *not* reported as related to the shots. And, I don't know about Germany, but in most places the first half of the year was a rush to get old people and medical employees vaccinated. It got rolled out to the younger population May-July-ish, while the first cohort was getting second shots, and by the end of the year, maybe boosters?

I am *on tenterhooks* waiting for the Q3 and Q4 numbers to come out. I don't see any way they are *better* than the first half of the year, and strongly suspect they are much worse.

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