Open (More Or Less) Post On Covid 16

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as the mass media insists that it's perfectly normal for pro athletes to drop dead of heart attacks at sixty times the usual rate, and search engines turn up a steadily increasing series of hits for the search string "died suddenly," the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: 2G in Germany

[(Anonymous)]

"With more time". Excuse me, but I really doubt you have any more time. None of us do. It should be obvious by now that, as the narrative falters, they (all the countries because, yes, they are all in this together - for whatever reason) will simply double-down on the madness. Forever. Until they are stopped or we are dead.

Re: Hello JMG and everybody

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I second this advice. It's more or less what I'm trying to do, especially since I took the vaccine... though I eat a bit more sugar than would probably be ideal, because I really love sweet things.

[(Anonymous)]

A bit of a darker humour

https://twitter.com/FreedomIsrael_/status/1465392239052562445

brought to you by pftiezer

[(Anonymous)]

Very relevant to the political conflict before COVID, and who might be now behind COVID fax mandates

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1465308266460811276

Re: 2G in Germany

[(Anonymous)]

I‘m not convinced it‘s most of us… we‘re just constantly being told it‘s most of us. ;-)

Overall, Germans don‘t seem to be very good at questioning authority.

Maybe it’s a historical thing: The last time we‘ve built up our own national identity and fought for it, was a loooong time ago (at least for the people in Western Germany. The situation is different in the East, and you can clearly see that e.g. in terms of protests, vaccine uptake, and votes for the political party which the mainstream is shunning), and it wasn‘t within the borders of today. So, well… we shall see.

I stand by my prediction, though: the stronger and harsher and more stupid the rules become, the more people will fight them (or ignore them).

In a country like the UK where the rules seem to be somewhat „reasonable“ and bearable at the moment, people might be less inclined to fight something like a vaccine ID card, because… who cares right now, right? No harm done by introducing it and all that.

Here in Germany, I know people who are very convinced that the vaccines will save us all, and that corona is the equivalent of the plague, but who are still very critical of all these forced and totalitarian measures.

Us Germans might just surprise ye‘all by starting the upcoming global revolution. ;-)

Milkyway

Re: The Narrative...

[ari_ormstunga]

I hope so too.

[booklover1973]

Yes, the way you describe population decline is what routinely happens in declining civilizations. But it is a drawn-out process where Covid and the vaccines are only one of several factors, like, for example, the consequences of lower standards of living.

[(Anonymous)]

In Australia, people are placing fake qr codes over the real ones that are linked to some very funny pages.

from erika

[(Anonymous)]

don't fight? it'll pass? before how many people die???

hmmm... now i see why Kimberly Steele and the others are extremely suspicious of posts like these that "may" seem to be informative, but only feed the enervating despair lethargy and apathy that keeps us passive--

--because after realizing what a potentially fun hail mary pass this is all gonna be, i'm actually feeling sorta' optimistic about our chances-- at least here in the states-- because as i mentioned before i'm off working my other magic tricks on the low i can't share because they're in play and doing their job and incubating.

in the meantime i'm reading thinking listening and plotting and scheming, and waiting to see what Papa G writes on wednesday about regarding the secret goal we're all not aware of, so that i can better refine my aim.

those of you in the rest of the world, maybe we can pull off something with the shreds of what's left of the ideas from The Enlightenment and start that Murmuration.

yes, it DOES have something to do with a "beat" that Regular Normal Pussy People cannot feel see or replicate without dying as they were. this is the inverse of "we can't think like them without withering and dying in agony."

they cannot see us when we murmurate they cannot see the colors we spin...

i'm still looking for the telephone number. because if we're to rely solely on not being betrayed, well the bible told us Regular Normal People will Judas you in a second and now with anti-social media and deadening anti-depressants, there's no nattering conscience to trip you up.

so be careful you here who're losing your minds and imbibing this passivity because it'll freak you out more like you're trapped. being on this PLANET with all these people has given me one humdinger of a bout of claustrophobia.

if you even SEE them or pay too much attention to them right now, you can actually wilt.

only see pretty things. really. i sound like a drag queen when i get to the place where i wave ugliness away and yell, "I CAN ONLY SEE PRETTY THINGS!" but i'm for real. and there's a huuuuge difference between whistling past proverbial graveyards and setting up to jerk off inside them like i apparently have.

so i'm not being weak. i'm saving my energy and not spilling my SEED. because the ONLY way we can hope to even remotely fight any of this at all, is if we get grounded and focused, centered, connected, and strong.

for me it's often MORE work to do--or even THINK UP--- third ways like that tai chi energy thing where you let them go around you like water, when you're used to fighting back.

i'm waaaay too used to being a bitch.

meow. back to my perch...



x

erika

Re: Family discussion?

[(Anonymous)]

I hadn't thought about the new variants moving via vaccinated individuals since unvaccinated aren't allowed to travel, but you're quite correct.

[(Anonymous)]

testimonials from Romanian chats:
Stefan:
My opinion is that this masquerade doesn't last long. Even those who have been vaccinated have begun to realize that something is wrong with this story. I'm saying that since they've been vaccinated, they have doubts about what they did and ask left and right if anyone else has the same problems. Things can no longer practically remain connected. A warmer December is coming than usual ... I heard something ...

Mihaela :
Most of my colleagues, friends and acquaintances who are foxed, live in a psychosis, do not want to take 3rd dose ... have serious health problems, young girls, 30-40 years old ... the world has woken up!realize that something is

Re: Red Death scenario

[(Anonymous)]

There was a company working on a nasal spray gel that I read about, to trap and block the virus in the upper respiratory tract, a bit like those hayfever sprays (which, to be fair, would probably do a similar job, but I think they were adding an antiviral compound). Not sure how far it got towards approval.

Beyond that, I'd think just strengthening your immune system as much as possible, like Mark says, would be your best bet. Flushing out the lungs with plenty of fresh air will minimise the virus from building up, and vitamin C, vitamin D/sunshine and small quantities of zinc supplements are rarely a bad idea unless specifically contraindicated by medical advice. I've seen comments on using mouthwash two or three times a day as well, which is probably a sensible idea, even if only from an oral hygiene perspective, just so long as it doesn't damage the cells there in the process (something strong like TCP three times daily would probably make things worse, though equally no one would be getting anywhere near someone smelling that strongly of TCP!)

In terms of preventing the virus from 'going vascular' which I think was your question though, that would probably be difficult - the alveoli of the lungs have, by design, a huge surface area, so it's a lot of territory to protect. Far easier to stop the virus further up, in the trachea, nostrils and mouth.

Ironically, masks *do* work, but only proper, close fitting respirators and HEPA style filters, down to sub-micron level filtration, and they are expensive and need frequent replacement. Plus, from experience in around May last year, people in the supermarket will look at you like you are insane, as it gives off quite the 'prepper' vibe. Thankfully it's quite difficult to be recognised whilst wearing one though. Anyway, a cloth/paper rag over the mouth and nose will just keep viruses, bacteria and CO2 in, not out. You don't see a lot of cloth masks in biohazard labs is all I'm saying.

WolfDog

mRNA vaccines - spike proteins in vaccines vs virus

[aria_aperta]

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This may have already been shared here..

https://osf.io/bcsa6/

Differences in Vaccine and SARS-CoV-2 Replication Derived mRNA: Implications for Cell Biology and Future Disease

AUTHORS
Kevin McKernan
Anthony M. Kyriakopoulos
Peter A. McCullough

Abstract

Codon optimization describes the process used to increase protein production by use of alternative but synonymous codon changes. InSARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines codon optimizations can result in differential secondary conformations that inevitably affect a protein’s function with significant consequences to the cell. Importantly, when codon optimization increases the GC content of synthetic mRNAs, there can be an inevitable enrichment of G-quartets which potentially form G-quadruplex structures. The emerging G-quadruplexes are favorable binding sites of RNA binding proteins like helicases that inevitably affect epigenetic reprogramming of the cell by altering transcription, translation and replication. In this study, we performed a RNA fold analysis to investigate alterations in secondary structures of mRNAs in SARS-CoV-2 vaccines due to codon optimization. We show a significant increase in the GC content of mRNAs in vaccines as compared to native SARS-CoV-2 RNA sequences encoding the spike protein. As the GC enrichment leads to more G-quadruplex structure formations, these may contribute to potential pathological processes initiated by SARS-CoV-2 molecular vaccination.

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Conclusions

The argument that the spike proteins synthesized by codon optimized mRNAs are identical to spike protein from the virus should be cautiously examined. There are several arguments that challenge this dogma. First, the biodistribution of non-specific LNP transfection of mRNAs does not discriminate towards ACE2 or CD147 expressing cell lines as seen with the virus. Second, the mRNA that encodes spike protein is known to be different in several regards. The mRNAs are known to have a 2 Proline substitution(K986P and V987P)(Department of Health and Human Services Patent US 10,960,070B2) altering the proteins conformation. The mRNAs are known to be codon optimized thus altering their secondary structure and their quadruplex G density in the spike protein mRNA. The mRNAs are known to have N1-methylpseudourine substitutions that alter translation fidelity and Toll Like Receptor recognition. Additionally, the expression levels and duration of these mRNAs maybe longer and of higher copy number in many tissues that never experience natural virus infection. Finally, the pharmacokinetics of injection are different than infection. 60ug-200ug of Spike mRNA equates to26 Trillion to 80 Trillion mRNA molecules injected in a few seconds. The pharmacokinetics of this bolus injection differs from that of viral replication that occurs over the course of a few days. If each of these mRNAs can produce 10-100 spike proteins and you have 30-40 Trillion cells, there may be a far greater systemic quantity and a much longer duration of spike protein exposure through the vaccination route than natural infection. Boosters given more frequently than a year will lead to total body accumulation of spike protein and further heighten the risk of disease in organs such as the brain, heart, bone marrow, and immune cells and tissues. This false equivalency may lead to an under appreciation of the symptomatology of vaccine based adverse events

...

More than 20months into this pandemic and we have millions of SARs-CoV-2 genomes sequenced. Lot to lot sequencing of the vaccines is non-existent. To this date, no raw reads for these vaccines exist in NCBI despite over a billion liability-free vaccinations. To fully understand RNA synthesis substitution errors, fragmentation errors or strandedness errors in the mRNA synthesis process, robust lot to lot sequencing should be performed and published. Given these mRNAs are prodrugs which code for a desired protein, where is the evidence that the conversion of this prodrug into a drug is of high fidelity? This seems to have been assumed as opposed to documented.

This work suggests this assumption should be questioned. Public and transparent quality control of these often-mandated injections are required.

Re: Red Death scenario

[escorcher]

Hence why children do so well with this virus (comparatively).

Interesting if not all remaining a little concerning.

Thanks again for your insight.

This is well worth a watch by the way. Pretty up to date and covers much on this thread. Geert VB plus others from 11/27:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ad28_arr0

Re: Peer reviewal of 5G-Covid study

[(Anonymous)]

You know, just the other day I watched the film "Thank you for smoking", and it's about exactly this.

It's pretty good, and the ending scene is the real kicker...

[escorcher]

Interesting.
Thanks.

That link again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ad28_arr0

Re: Strange Days

[(Anonymous)]

Even in places with vax-passports, this could still work potentially if you're willing to say that you're ok with the vaccines, but not with the passport system. This could be a fairly powerful position to take to encourage other jabbees to say no to the passport system while avoiding an attack on the vaxxes themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that would have been an interesting turn indeed. Here in the State of New York I am 3 fizzer jabs closer to the grave myself. First two were at same state run pod of my chooseing to the west, third was a state run pod north of home I chose. Since childhood I've made a habit of watching the jab or blood draws, as it's sort of unexpected and amusing to watch the reaction of the Dr./NP. No one at either pod aspirated the syringe for me either. In my own work experience of rolling veins, jugular sticks, and IV's I aspirated SOP, naturally. But we never did so for Vaccs.

I've had a heart murmur since birth, and paid it no attention except once in college as a class lab rat. So recently my new, different, and curious GP suggested a noninvasive cardiac ultrasound, which I agreed to for shells and giggles. I have a most excellent vein for phlebotomy so I was looking forward to the draw, as always. Unfortunately, due to shortages of the needles/butterfly's that the nurses at our large hospital are accustomed to, they were required to use alternate gage/style needles and all went south. after sticking me 6+ times in each arm and reaming out my flesh apologetically- two nurses gave up, before a third struck crimson gold. I secretly wanted to volunteer to do it myself, as I have in the past at my workplace lab station. Anyway, After watching a long, fun, and informative ultrasound that showed everything was apparently in better shape than expected, the Dr. doing this asked if it would be okay to fill my veins with a luminol type substance I was familiar with- and so I took the Dr's offer to explore every nook and cranny of my heart again (for shells and giggles). After Her nurse then stuck my hands and arms numerous times without success and apologetically blamed the tools she was given I thought better of my own curiosity and seized the opportunity to make a run for it like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

Point is, maybe it's better the army medic or journeyman nurse doesn't spend time and resources aspirating every vaccs jab. They just might be rushed, or unsure of themselves or what they observe and need to stick someone over, and over, and over.

BT&H

[(Anonymous)]

That's really good. Warning to all, put your drink down before looking.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. The southwest walkouts weren't just protests.
I for one would love to see a nationwide, or worldwide, general strike. We're not there yet. But if everyone who thinks it's going too far just walked away from work for a day, or a week, or until the people who think they're in charge stepped aside . . .
Very different from a protest, even though they can look the same.

[(Anonymous)]

Glad to hear it. That's a great thing in addition to protesting.

[weilong]

I would argue that vaccine mandates (and a lot of the other nonsense that is going on since last year) are not (or not only) a slippery slope. They are, in and of themselves, an unacceptable encroach upon liberty.

[weilong]

That's the way I see it. Governments in Washington DC, London, Berlin, and a few other places will continue issuing covid edicts for years while the rest of us are busy dealing with real problems.

Re: from erika

[(Anonymous)]

How I am reading it, to his credit he says fight for your health, and from the other content I think he expects the other side to register heavy losses on itself, as JMG said, if that prevents things from going kinetic, so be it.

Re: New Horsedewormer

[(Anonymous)]

No idea if it affects the antiviral compounds, but a lot of curcumin/turmeric supplements also contain black pepper to aid bodily absorption. Read up on it if you’re going to use kitchen spices :)