ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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Here's an eyeopener from a nurse who works at a rural Alaskan hospital https://twitter.com/AxelSavage4/status/1437624425281511429?s=20

(copied and pasted parts of the thread)

Apparently all patients are asked whether or not they received the #CV19 vax, no matter what issue it is that brought them into the ER.
If the patient received the vax less than 14 days prior, they are recorded as "Un-Vaxxed"
The story the nurses are being given, is that this is done because the vax takes 14 days to start working. The FT ER nurse my wife talked to last night has a different theory:
It has been her observation that most patients coming in with what appears to be vaccine injuries are coming in within 72 hours of receiving the jab. By recording these patients as "Un-Vaxxed" they can do a few things:
- one, they can claim those vax injuries are a result of Covid & not the shot
- two, they can bury the vaccine injury
- three, they get to claim there's a "pandemic of the unvaccinated"
It also turns out that nurses are being required to sign nondisclosure agreements, promising not to publicly discuss any procedures dealing with #CV19

So if this is true, it's a pandemic of recently vaccinated (maybe some of these people who are sneaking in third shots??) whose symptoms look like Covid.

Every country that starts vaccinations campaigns see huge spikes in cases so it sure looks like the vaccines cause positive Covid tests and Covid-like symptoms.

Somewhat relatedly, any charts I've seen that parse the adverse reactions data from sources such as Vaers, seem to show a steep spike centered on the first three days, followed by a long but diminishing tail over time. This is especially obvious when charting deaths. If what you say is happening is actually happening, this would hide a lot of very problematic data. And, more to the point, it would appear to shift blame to an area that doesn't deserve it.

Chris Martenson was talking about how doctors reported that the VAERS website was crashing every two minutes while they were trying to fill out the forms, so they just gave up.

I work in IT, at a Canadian hospital, and have seen the same happen with CAEFISS, our equivalent. When I asked contacts who work on the CAEFISS system, they told me that they are just overwhelmed with traffic, and no one wants to authorize the expense to increase the system's capacity....

I don't know whether someone with more biochemistry than me could clarify this.

I have wondered whether the virus could evolve to be able to use the spike protein subunits that are supposed to be made by the body as a result of the jab.

Then you would see the newly vaccinated absolutely getting swamped by the disease all of a sudden because the virus would have half of its work already done -- after all a virus is basically a molecular machine that is trying to make more of itself. If the body is already making half the proteins it needs, a strain that can cash in on that would have an evolutionary advantage in the newly vaccinated.

I wouldn't expect much if any effect here. New viruses are only produced in infected cells, and the number of new viruses that can be produced is limited by the least abundant component. So a surplus of spikes will not necessarily lead to a surplus of viruses.

As to whether the vaccine spike could be incorporated into the virus if infection and vaccination overlapped, that's a good question to which I don't have an answer.

Mark L

Has anyone told Denninger about this?

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