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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2021-09-14 11:38 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: Pray for my Neighbor

(Anonymous) 2021-09-16 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Given how difficult it is to assess the national or global situation (due to deliberately manipulated or obfuscated statistics), I think that personal experience is an important guide. It is informative to ask people how many people they know personally who have been sick or died from covid, and similarly what their experience with the vaccines has been.

Re: Pray for my Neighbor

(Anonymous) 2021-09-16 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
A recent BBC news piece discussing the drive to jab 12-15 year olds mentions the link between the mRNA jabs and heart inflammation and says this is 'incredibly rare', citing a study which estimates the number of instances as 12-34 per 1 million.

Note, first of all, the unusually emotive language. Not 'extremely' but 'incredibly' rare.

Second, more pertinently to your point, I personally know two people who have suffered heart problems from the jabs. One is a middle-aged women, currently hospitalised; the other is a young man aged 30, healthy as a horse until this. I also know of an elderly lady who suffered a stroke 3 hours after receiving her first jab.

So either I'm 'incredibly' unlucky or these official statistics are seriously skewed.

Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57888429

- Triplet