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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2021-09-14 11:38 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

(Anonymous) 2021-09-14 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm also seeing this here in Canada. I'm certainly not part of any elite but I have a few acquaintances who are connected to the movers and shakers. These people are true believers who are utterly convinced that this Great Reset is the ONLY way forward and is the ONLY way their cherished laundry list of THINGS THAT MUST BE DONE TO SAVE THE WORLD can be accomplished. I find the arrogance of it all quite breathtaking. However, no one on the outside should be tempted to dismiss this as "conspiracy theory" or "liberal/leftist moon-battery". This is a sincerely and passionately held belief amongst this class. And they have the money and power to make it happen. I fail to understand those who still label such ideas as "conspiracy theories" when almost every "conspiracy theory" in recent years has been shown to be factual (or have a basis in fact). You cannot fight toxic ideas if you refuse to believe that they exist.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-17 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I would just mention again the people are not without power. And no that doesn’t mean all of us need to join hands and sing by all “That’s a long wait on a train don’t come.”
It does mean these people aren’t in complete control.
They can’t afford to lose too many or they’d actually have to work for a living.

Some quotes that might help are in
“The sinews of war are not gold, but good soldiers; for gold alone will not procure good soldiers, but good soldiers will always procure gold.”
— Niccolò Machiavelli Discourses
http://www.online-literature.com/machiavelli/titus-livius/71/

“The rich build their own prisons.”
Sepp Holzer a picture through the fence at a mansion.

And paraphrasing Dune “He stays locked up in his tower while you are free to go where you will.”