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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2021-09-14 11:38 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 
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Re: Life sounds harder if you're vaccinated

[personal profile] open_space 2021-09-14 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a physicist friend who is very smart in raw mental power but not much outside of that areas that went overboard into the whole vaccine thing and knew everything about it in favor of it. We argued somewhat peacefully for weeks, exchanging links, papers and arguments for and against the vaccine. Suddenly, for the past 3 weeks, he has been very quiet and I have seen the same for many other people.

As you pointed out, there never was a good reason to get the vaccine but the narrative was stiff and fueled by fear and because they thought it was the holy grail, now thats been changing and it's cracking bit by bit... And since what you mention is also a mayor throwback I hope that will help things change. How was the Gandhi saying that JMG has cited a few times? First the ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. I think the fighting back is not as strong as it was a few weeks ago...
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Re: Life sounds harder if you're vaccinated

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2021-09-14 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
“Suddenly, for the past 3 weeks, he has been very quiet and I have seen the same for many other people.”

That’s a very positive sounding sign.


Has anyone else witnessed, or heard first hand accounts, of people not getting diagnosed with Covid simply because they were semi-recently vaccinated?