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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2021-09-14 11:38 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

support groupThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 
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[personal profile] ahriman 2021-09-14 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
With regards to data quality: US data (I know, repeating myself) is poor. It helps if you get a better source, like English data. This is especially important if you want to get a signal as soon as possible.

With regards to ADE: It might take time to appear - if at all. Either from a mutation that is still to appear, from another coronavirus like OC43 - but which is still out-of-season or out-competed. Or even another type of virus.

At the end there is a tension here between short term analysis (and vaccines seem to be useful in the short term) and long term consequences. It simply might take time for some theory to be proven right.