Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 6

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a gargantuan (and increasing) number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[ecosophia]

I don't have answers for these questions yet. We're in a situaiton in which experimentation is crucial.

[(Anonymous)]

One other issue I see is that if this basic hypothesis is correct, we're still not just dealing with demons. We're also dealing with the mess they produced through their influence on things like the Magic Resistance: it's entirely possible their ability to directly muck with divinations is rather limited, but that they have people doing workings designed to muck with divination and that that's where the effect comes from. Likewise, the intrusive voices could also just be coming from magical attacks, in at least some cases; it's quite hard to tell for sure what's happening here, and so I think it's best to handle it on a case by case basis.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't propaganda, when it catches the public, some sort of mantra for summoning secular demonic forces...

[(Anonymous)]

One of the interesting things would be to determine what the differences are between unvaccinated folks who do hear those voices and unvaccinated folks who do not.

BoysMom

[(Anonymous)]

Yes I never heard seductive voices urging me to get jabbed. But then I don't watch TV and do the SOP regularly.

BTW social media (which gets blamed for a lot) was a great help. There is a strong alternative community online which was suspicious of the jabs from Day One. The memes were excellent and far better than anything the pro-vaxxers did but then again the Left can't meme. It was good to have some laughs at such a serious time.

[(Anonymous)]

This morning Twisted Sister’s “We’re not gonna take it!” Started playing on the radio and I burst out laughing.

It’s simply too perfect. It’s now my official anthem for this time.

[hearthspirit]

That's hilarious, a friend of mine sent me a picture of a Twisted Sister record album saying "I found this, and you like records, do you want it?" and I had to politely decline while not taking offense on the comment on my taste. I guess I was prematurely snobby about the resurgent cool potential of glam/hair rock.

Naturally, I will send the picture to my friend who once got their logo tattooed on her thigh with her sister because they were drunk and didn't know it was a band. Just to be a good friend and rub in the consequences of bad choices taken while under the influence, haha.

Who Hears the Voices and Who Doesn't

[(Anonymous)]

Here's my data point:

- My only internet is our esteemed host's websites, coronavirus data sites such as San Diego County and UK Health Service, and occasional "fun" sites like learning about horsehair furniture.
- No "social" media.
- No TV.
- A "red amulet" from JMG's Magic Monday FAQ (there's a link to it in every Magic Monday), which I wear or have within a couple feet of me constantly
- Cell phone always kept away from me, either across the living room or in another room (never on my person)
- A walk nearly every day up the street, past lots of trees, bushes and lawns.

- No voices suggesting I should get the shot.

- Cicada Grove

[(Anonymous)]

I'm unvaccinated and have yet to hear any voices or feel any interest in being vaxxed. I've been keeping up with the Covid news as best I can, but to be honest, living in a very rural area on a small farm with lots of elbow room and more work to do than time, I haven't really been impacted by the whole virus thing beyond the annoyance of masking in stores back when that was required.

Beekeeper in Vermont

[seasidehermit]

No voices here either, just a general sense of heightened dread. I'm not a part of the PMC/TDS crowd, I limit my online activities and pay no attention to mainstream media. I also have an extreme distrust of the medical industry rooted in childhood trauma, I avoid doctors as a matter of course and would be hard pressed to go get a vaccine even if it wasn't experimental and I was in actual danger. The particular tone the establishment has decided to take with all this, talking to the public like we're children and they're your self appointed guardian who knows better and can therefore give themselves permission to ignore your will for your own good, is one I'm too intimately familiar with, and I won't be dragged down road again.

It's possible all that baggage is too much to get through?

[(Anonymous)]

I feel something like dread too, an uneasiness in my gut and not just about Covid itself, but also about what the Covid Industrial Complex™ is doing to the country and society. It's like waiting for the other shoe to fall.


Beekeeper in Vermont

[(Anonymous)]

Me too.

I've been suffering from a sense of dread for some months now. I have never experienced anything like this before. I too am chronically worried and uneasy and waiting for the other shoe to fall.

[(Anonymous)]

I also do not watch tv.

I do social media, but it's carefully currated, and I think I've spent between two and five hours a week since January 20th talking folks off the suicide ledge. (This Administration has a lot to answer for, what with the threats, Afghanistan, and general running their mouths.) Time well spent, and I'm not the only one in my social groups doing this, but dang, it's exhausting. No, killing yourself will not fix your job/business/relationship problems, and how do you think that will help your kids/cats/dogs anyway, nor does the idiotic method of withdrawal mean your blood and your buddies' lives were wasted, thank you for your service and don't you dare quit, soldier! We need you more than ever now.

I also spend a lot of time explaining How To Home School these days.

Much of my social groups, online and off, are very You Do You and I'll Do Me sorts. Of course, home schoolers are heavily pre-disposed to independence . . . er, ornery sheer pigheadedness. Or something like that.
My church has just re-opened, and they and the Society for Creative Anachronism are probably the two most conformist groups in my personal sphere.

There's a meme running around of two ladies holding hands, back towards the photographer, one wearing a placard that says "I'm unvaccinated and for choice" the other saying "I'm vaccinated and for choice." These are my people. My closest friend, my brother-in-all-but-biology, is vaccinated, and we've agreed to disagree. My siblings-in-law and their families are largely anti-vax, and the one who did get vaccinated promptly got a nasty but just below hospitilization worthy case, and no-way-no-how are their kids getting that. Not that their daddy would have stood for it: turns out immigrant PMC minorities have the same general suspicions about government medical programs as native born working and welfare minorities do. Funny, that history of eugenics coming back to bite.

I do the Christian Banishing, I pray very often: lots of folks want prayer, and God knows I need a hand with all this.

Unusually, my home is framed in steel, not stick-built. They say iron repels fairies, well, and our internet is very unreliable, so who knows?

I have not heard any of these voices. I have, however, heard my God's voice several times, though not recently. (Which is a good thing, I did mention sheer pigheadedness, didn't I? Hammer has not been required to get my attention lately.)

BoysMom

[methylethyl]

Unvaxxed, religious, no TV and no streaming video capacity, have no desire to get the shot, and have heard nothing of the sort.

[(Anonymous)]

Likewise, and likewise!

Sonkitten does watch some TV—local weather, Jeopardy, and the Roseanneless Roseanne rehash, but he understood when I explained about 4 years or so being needed to see if there are unexpected side effects, and he is willing to wait.

—Lady Cutekitten

[(Anonymous)]

I suspect in my case it's magical attack: I only get this when dealing with my mother. I am going to fully cut her out of my life shortly; there's a small number of practicalities to take care of first though.

[violetcabra]

This is an excellent question, BoysMom, but looking over the responses it seems that more or less only people who've not heard the sinister voices have responded. I think that this is a situation where people feel ashamed if they'd heard the voices, because that implies that they are more open to demons. This, one could argue, might imply either some moral failing or spiritual defect. To now admit to hearing those voices given the hypothesis is to potentially admit to some measure of vulnerability, of weakness, of incompetence, or the like.

Since I've already publicly shared I did indeed hear the voices many reported and they dissuaded me mote than anything else, I can likewise report:

* I watch no television.
* I watch no video.
* I practice a daily banishing ritual.
* I do a large amount of daily protective and blessing natural magic.
* I have an active religious life.
* I meditate on sacred texts.

Something that I do have, though, is a tendency towards telepathy which has been verified countless times. I'm also somewhat emotionally oriented. I wonder then how much of sensing the voices that many have reported is in the nature of developed inner senses? My psychism has proven profoundly painful before, and it's something I can turn off about as easily as my sense of smell.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, that makes very good sense, Violet. Indeed, I personally have very little sense of telepathy at all, and my inner senses naturally run on the visual lines.

If there's some sort of inner ear plugs, then, it'll be up to those who can hear to find them, and nothing so simple as 'move to a house framed in iron' or, hopefully, so very expensive as that would be.

My hope was simply that comparing the folks plagued by these to those not, the folks plagued could figure out why and perhaps how to shush them. Certainly not any sort of moral or ethical judgement.

My sincere appologies to anyone who felt criticized, judged, or anything else negative.

BoysMom

[violetcabra]

Thank you for the kind words, BoysMom. To be clear on my end no apology is needed and no offense taken. I think it's an excellent question you asked, and a clearly good intent behind it. Re: shushing the voices, Florida Water Cologne has proven very helpful on my end for that purpose.