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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2021-05-23 11:45 pm

Magic Monday

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(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I visualized the patterns and saw and felt the shape of the patterns. I felt the rhythm and the ‘feeling of the music’ in my body as it came out of me. The only way I can break this down in language right now is that I was able to sort of project my knowing-feeling into the music, and feel it into my fingers, my breath, and my sense of being with the other musicians, if I was playing with any at the time.

Visualizing and feeling into the patterns is simpler with folk music that is in the form of jigs, reels, polkas, etc. But if you know a classical piece well - for instance - if you listen to it, and play around with your senses, it should be possible to break it down into chunks.

I don’t know if any of this makes sense to people other than me - I am strongly visual and kinesthetic, so feeling and visualizing into things became instinctive for me.

If you have other strengths, my suggestion would be to certainly try this (carefully and gently at first, as if you were starting to learn discursive meditation), but to also think about how your own strengths might help you feel into the music and your body’s building muscle memory.

Here is a bit of lesson that might provide you with a place to start.

If you learn by ear, then listen to the piece you want to learn, and internalize it (by this, I mean to know it so well that you can, if this is a strength, ‘play’ it in your head). Then feel into it as you try to work it out with your fingers (and breath or bowing or whatever) and try to start picking up phrases, and find whatever visual imagery makes sense to you.

If you learn by notation or letters, you can try listening to the piece and follow along while looking at your music as a first step before the rest. I did both methods and found them helpful in different circumstances.

All that said, I have no idea whether this will be actually helpful to you in learning as a beginning musician. When I used to teach beginners, I started with technique and the notes - this sort of stuff never came up because it was something I just did, and not anything that I’d thought anyone might want to hear about at the time. So please don’t frustrate yourself trying this.

If it were me, I’d certainly explore this, but also listen very carefully to what your teacher has to say to guide you. Follow that advice. And then practice, practice, practice.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Woodwind player again - could be. Worth exploring!

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It has given me a feeling of hope with this that I have lacked. It was and has been a major wound.

I know it wasn’t intentional to help to this degree, but I think it is a very good example - we sometimes don’t know in life how we might sooth and energize others toward good things, through simply the act of being ourselves. And engaging with the world in a polite and thoughtful manner.

Good job, you!

Vaccine protection?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear JMG/Commentariat,

I realized recently that I’m inevitably going to have to get vaccinated. I’m currently unemployed and there is a nearly 0% chance that vaccination won’t be made mandatory in order to work where I live some time in the future.

Obviously, we still quite literally don’t know about any of the possible long term side effects of these vaccines, so are there any practices that I can start now that will affect change to help keep my physical body safe in the long term? Or is that even possible?

I’m still ultimately quite new to magic, but I do have some experience with the LBRP/MP/etc.

I feel a bit ridiculous asking this, but I’m at the point where I’d rather take the “woo” seriously, than put my faith into contemporary science.

Thank you,
R

Reflection

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
So in my occult readings I've read numerous descriptions of the "active" and "passive" principle. Fire and Water, etc etc

But for some reason I've never seen the concept of reflections talked about in places like the Kybalion. Which seems somewhat important, for the concept comes up in magical practice and thought a lot (Magical mirrors, Images, Moon physically reflecting light from the sun and so on) Does the concept fit into your cosmogony at all?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It feels like after doing the LBRP that all the energy built up and maintained in the final seconds (when the archangels, the pentagram circle and the 6 pointed star) falls like a house of cards, even if I do the QC right after.

What am I doing wrong?
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[personal profile] open_space 2021-05-24 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thought it doesn't tackle your questions precisely, I'm currently reading a book called Karma by Sadhguru which is worth reading if it interests you. It's fairly basic but it's accurate and has good info.

[personal profile] booklover1973 2021-05-24 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
About the language of the Etruscans, there is a book "Zikh Rasna" which deals with Etruscan writing, grammar and inscriptions.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi,

I understand that offerings etc to Jupiter/Chesed on the hours of Jupiter, more particularly on the 'day' of Jupiter (Thursday) might be beneficial when making charitable actions etc. To what extent are planetary days and hours off-set by decans? If a Thursday falls within a decan like the one represented by the 8 of swords (1st decan in Gemini) is the benefit of the charitable action thereby negated or reduced? I gather that with this decan, the influence of Jupiter is both at greatest distance, and widely dissipated by the effect of Gemini. So, a charitable action within that time frame might be contraindicated?

A basic preliminary divination by way of the TdM (assuming as per Gareth Knight French images but English system) as to the nature of actions taken with an eye to the planetary hours vs same action with an eye to the decans produced: Effect of honouring the hours: 3 coins; effect taking into account the decan: Lover(s). If the Lover(s) card (as per English system) represents Gemini, then it would seem that it's not just the decan that is having an effect but the entire zodiac sign governing all three decans. In which case - hold off on the intended action until the three Gemini decans are out the way?

More simply - the background question: Is it better to factor the decans relative to the planetary hours with financial decisions or just carry on with the planetary hours on their own terms regardless?

And the foreground question: Does the appearance of the card for the whole zodiacal sign indicate that the negative aspects of the star sign currently outweigh the beneficial aspects of the planetary one? It would be an unhappy thing for any action taken in that context to be 'passing on' the limitations of the time-frame in which it occurred (if such is the case).

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. Do you happen to know which religions they are getting into?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
1) There's nothing that makes bad fodder for discursive meditation, provided you can reject ideas as well as incorporate them.

2)it's mostly due to the fact that each niche follows the same core structure of having an ingroup of "smart people who know what's up" and an outgroup of "Easily mislead idiots". Most if not all political groups have this dichotomy, which makes them unable to debate with other sides because the assumption is always that the other side is wrong.

Planetary charity question

(Anonymous) 2021-05-24 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
My understanding of planetary charity is that it should be given to an organization, person, animal, building (etc) that you do not currently have a relationship with. Is this also your understanding? If so, is there any etiquette for seeking a relationship with an org you donated planetary charity some time later (like, is it necessary to donate to another org or entity associated with the planet)?

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