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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-04-15 10:34 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 193

doctoredWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Randomized clinical trial

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
A comment on randomized clinical trials (RCTs) -

The models for randomization are built based on physical objects coming out of the same factory process. For example, if a machine follows the same mechanical process to create 1 million pennies, you can toss each of those pennies 100 times and expect the head to tail ratio to be nearly equal in all trials.

In case of humans, the number of variables is so large that we simply use the variables that make us feel good. How do we know that the proper randomization variables are races, sexes, age and so on? I may as well argue the real variable affecting the variation of health is the profile of the gut microbiome, and maybe that gut microbiome changes on the brand of the bread these people eat.

In general I find RCTs to be marketing devices used by drug companies (cartels) to downplay people's real life experiences. ("Oh, you have headache after taking my medicine? That is from stress or fear of injection, because our RCT participants had no headache.") Also, they are used by the same companies as legal shields. As far as scientific evidence goes, RCTs prove nothing.

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
boccaccio posted this late in the last thread, but I think it is important enough to be mentioned again -

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has granted Fast Track Designation for the self-amplifying mRNA (sa-mRNA) vaccine candidate, ARCT-2304, designed for active immunization to protect against disease caused by influenza A H5N1 subtype contained in the vaccine."

https://ir.arcturusrx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/arcturus-therapeutics-receives-us-fda-fast-track-designation-0

What is going on?

Effective Immediately IVM Is OTC in Idaho

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel excited to share that the governor of Idaho signed the OTC Ivermectin bill into law:
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/capitol-watch/idaho-governor-signs-bill-making-ivermectin-available-without-prescription-law/277-f45f6beb-c95a-4355-9feb-bfdc744f6d4a

No more horse paste for me! =-)

On a related note, I also learned yesterday that Little changed his mind about signing into law the health freedom bill because he got pressured from so many directions. The bill's opponents were trying to carve out day care centers as an exemption (meaning they wanting to require all kids in licensed day care centers to be vaccinated) to the bill's mandates and the bill's authors said "no way" because they realized they had the support to get the bill through after Little's first veto. Little apparently decided the optics would be bad for him if he stood by his original veto.

Progress in my opinion....

Re: Randomized clinical trial

[personal profile] anonymoose_canadian 2025-04-15 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who briefly worked in the medical research system, I only even consider trusting triple blinded procedures. A double blind procedure means the patients and people giving the injection don't know which group someone belongs to. It does not mean the researchers do not know which group people belong to; and they can and do do things such as encourage people in the placebo group to see doctors or only forward the placebo group's information to hospitals; so when they hospitals report seeing people from the clinical trial, one of the ways to monitor the process, it is only the placebo group that gets fully reported to hospitals, while most if not all of the experimental group are not reported. Any experimental design which is merely double-blind, which is most of them, are open to exactly these games, and I'm quite convinced this is the reason why these experiments are almost always only double blinded and not triple blinded.

I'd also note that on more than one occasion a trial would start, get disastrous results and be called off. A few months later, a new experiment would start, with restrictions in place to keep the people who reacted to the ; this process would repeat until the researchers figured out what exclusion procedures and experimental targets would allow the trial to give the desired results. As long as the trial did not finish, it does not need to be reported to the regulators when seeking approval for a new product, so an insane number of trials get killed early if the results are not promising enough....

Re: Effective Immediately IVM Is OTC in Idaho

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
the governor of Idaho signed the OTC Ivermectin bill into law

Excellent news! Congratulations, residents of Idaho!

Caldathras

Re: Effective Immediately IVM Is OTC in Idaho

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure the bill getting rid of state licensing for daycares passed and was signed, so . . . requiring vaxes for liscenced daycares would be requiring vaxes for something that no longer exists.

I understand the second Medical Freedom bill, the one Gov. "Chicken" Little signed, is greater in scope than the one he did not sign.

At least the legislature is out of session now, so we don't have to watch them for shenanigans. They do some good, they do some bad.

BoysMom
P.S. Little earned his nickname by being too afraid to call the legislature back to session in 2020.

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey JMG

May be a silly question, but when will the COVID open posts be in their 5th year of existence? Do you count from the actual start of each year, or 12 months after the month and day you posted the first open post?

J.L.Mc12

Re: Randomized clinical trial

(Anonymous) 2025-04-15 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
In lieu of endless repetitions, one can also propose a wide range of hypotheses based on different testing methods within a single trial and only report on the successful result for the single hypothesis and ignore the rest.

This is very obviously what was done with the Covid jab trial, there are an enormous number of simple and straight forward tests that are missing from the trial data, and the pathway they chose to proving the result is both is convoluted and subject to the judgement of the researchers.

It is plainly evident with any minor amount of critical thought that none of the simple outcomes gave a desirable answer and it took quite some hunting to find a 'successful' result.

Re: Randomized clinical trial

[personal profile] weilong 2025-04-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear.

I still hear people speaking of some new research as a peer reviewed study in a reputable journal.

I now understand that "peer reviewed" simply means that it conforms to the conventional wisdom, doesn't step on anybody's toes. And after the way such prestigious journals as JAMA and the Lancet performed during the pandemonium, I wouldn't wipe my behind with those rags.

Re: Randomized clinical trial

(Anonymous) 2025-04-16 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Also, increasingly PR-reviewed papers are getting retracted later, if "wrong kind of people" (such as ecosophians) make their unconventional findings go viral.

Re: Randomized clinical trial

[personal profile] anonymoose_canadian 2025-04-16 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, sure, and that is probably actually preferable. The cases I saw where trials were called off though were when things happen like a sizable fraction of the experimental group died during a trial; the researchers went through the cause of deaths, figured out it was heart problems, and forced everyone who signed up for attempt number 2 to be screened for heart problems. The vaccine trials did not last long enough for that to become an issue.

Re: Randomized clinical trial

[personal profile] anonymoose_canadian 2025-04-16 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I also saw that a couple times; another one I saw on similar lines was finding clever ways to remove a large fraction of the poorer performing members of the experimental group and a large fraction of the healthier members of the placebo group from the sample as "outliers". Some of the excuses were quite amusing in a twisted sort of way...

[personal profile] slinky_weasel 2025-04-16 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for creating this space! It may have saved my life, but it certainly saved my sanity. A big thank you to you and all the other posters!

(Anonymous) 2025-04-16 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Here's a video that is taking off in Canada regarding certain politicians and their ties to the WEF and China.

It's brilliant AI but as one comment said - it would be amusing if it wasn't so true!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-3V158xtmg

Liam in Toronto

(Anonymous) 2025-04-16 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Just seen on twitter https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1911474231549796630

"MARKS KNOWS WHAT BOBBY IS GONNA FIND IN THAT FEDERAL DATABASE ON VACCINE DEATHS AND INJURIES. HE KNOWS.

That's why he's making the media rounds right now after he got FIRED for trying to block Bobby & his researcher's access to the database. He's out there FURIOUSLY trying to do damage control. There has been a MASSIVE decades-long COVERUP by our 'public servants' who've been running our government health/medical agencies that were CAPTURED by Big Pharma years n' years ago. RFK Jr. is about to END THE COVER UP.

When he does, American parents are going to be absolutely and completely and utterly and totally OUT FOR BLOOD over what they were TRICKED into doing to their kids with these vaccines. and you can quote me on that."

I'm not so sure. It will be extremely hard for most parents to admit they did something (albeit unwittingly) that damaged their child. I think a lot of them will cling to the idea that it's just bad luck that their child is autistic etc. Also, people who consider themselves smart find it very hard to admit that they were duped. I don't think there will be any lynching of those responsible for vaccine injuries. We will lucky if any of them get convicted and spend even one day in prison.
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Summoning the demon

[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-04-16 08:07 am (UTC)(link)

We are dealing with other issues here, what you are describing is much like a problem of the previous century! Now we have Big Business and Big Gov treating, language, biology and everything like a software/hardware problem. Imagine how many issues are on standardised electronic hardware and software that are pretty much not diverse compared with life. But having the hardware/software paradigm about life will bring wild ramifications.

Why did Musk specifically used the phrase "summoning the demon" when talking about AI, more than a decade ago nonetheless? Not in uncertain terms, is not even metaphorical, more like pataphorical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzb_CSRO-0g

If AI in other areas is at least obnoxious and demonic as the LLMs are (the linguistic AI) and diffusion algorithms are(the "art"/image AI), we are fried.

They even discuss the risks while they are using this technologies unregulated for at least more than a decade. Strange how the obesity pandemic, started showing up just about time when synthetic hormones and enzymes showed up big time in the 90's-2000's.

"Biosecurity in the Age of Synthetic Biology" by Leyma Pérez De Haro on Routledge:

Just a summary search and you find hundreds of papers. Greek gods might know what are in the R&D labs of Big Business! Take the simplest bioactive component the enzymes, just a bad synthetic enzyme can be extremely dangerous because just trace elements are enough to disrupt life processes. And now they put this stuff everywhere from perfumes, paints and mostly in dish and clothes detergents, etc

And yes synthetic biology sheds, enzyme, cells, etc shed from people's clothes, perfumes, etc

Synthetic Enzymes
Synthetic Biology Perspectives of Microbial Enzymes and Their Applications


Synthetic Vitamins
Synthetic vs Natural Nutrients: Does it Matter?
Transforming Traditional Nutrition Paradigms with Synthetic Biology


Synthetic Viruses
Synthetic Viruses: A New Opportunity to Understand and Prevent Viral Diseases
Synthetic Virology Approaches to Improve the Safety and Efficacy of Oncolytic Viruses


Synthetic mRNA Therapies
Harnessing Synthetic Biology for Advancing RNA Therapeutics and Vaccines
Making the Next Generation of Therapeutics: mRNA Meets Synthetic Biology


Synthetic Cells
Present and Future of Synthetic Cell Development
Synthetic Cells: From Simple Bio-Inspired Modules to Sophisticated Artificial Cells


Synthetic Proteins and Food
Synthetic Biology for Future Food: Research Progress and Future Directions
Food Synthetic Biology-Driven Protein Supply Transition: From Animal to Plant-Based Proteins


Synthetic Organs and Organisms
Applications of Synthetic Biology in Medical and Pharmaceutical Fields
Synthetic Organisms and Living Machines


Other Synthetic Life Innovations
What is (Synthetic) Life? Basic Concepts of Life in Synthetic Biology
Doubling Our DNA Building Blocks Could Lead to New Life Forms
Scientists Aim for 'Darwinian Evolution' with Artificial Life Project


Software, AI, and Molecular Printers in Synthetic Biology
Artificial Intelligence Powering Synthetic Biology: The Fundamentals
How AI Is Transforming Synthetic Biology: Reaching Far Beyond Biopharma
Automating Your Synthetic Biology Workflow

Edited 2025-04-16 08:18 (UTC)
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Re: Summoning the demon

[personal profile] the_arcane_archivist 2025-04-16 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Why did Musk specifically used the phrase "summoning the demon" when talking about AI, more than a decade ago nonetheless? Not in uncertain terms, is not even metaphorical, more like pataphorical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzb_CSRO-0g



Strange how he is cautioning us while he is dipping in this whole universe...

https://www.reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/musk-says-tesla-is-building-rna-microfactories-for-curevac-idUSFWN2E9067/
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Paracelsus, On the Imagination (as a cause of Pestilence)

[personal profile] scotlyn 2025-04-16 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Here is a bit of (serious) fun... :)

I have copied an entire passage from my copy of a 1975 facsimile reprint of the 1656 "Englished" edition of The Archidoxes of Magic by Paracelsus.

This passage is entitled "On Imagination" and grouped with others under the general heading of "Occult Philosophy".

It contains alchemical stuff which goes over my head, but personally I was struck by the image of fearful news "piercing through the skin" and in that way, entering the imagination. Also, by the way the passage confirms the wisdom of keeping news and social media off (or at least well turned down low). And finally, how it emphasises the value of this forum (and any other similar gatherings) for "comforting" one another and easing us out of our fearful imaginings. However the "joy and mirth" that is also commended is worth pursuing. :)

Without further ado:

Archidoxes of Magic, by Paracelsus, Englished by R. Turner, 1656

"What powerful operation the Imagination hath, and how the same cometh to its exaltation, may be seen by an example taken from experience in the time of pestilence, wherein the Imagination poysoneth more than any infected Aire; and against which, no Antidote, neither of Mithridate nor Treacle, nor any such preservative, can exhibit any helpe; unless that such an imagination do pass away and be forgotten, nothing else will helpe. So quick and swift a Runner and Messenger is the Imagination that it doth not onely fly out of one house into another, out of one streete into another, but also most swiftly passeth from one City and Country into another; so that by the Imagination onely of one person, the Pestilence may come into some whole City or Country, and kill many thousands of men: as may be understood by this example.

"Put case there were two brothers dearly loving one another, and one of them lives in France and the other travels into Italy, who is taken away by Pestilence in the middle way, and newes should be brought to the brother living in France, that his brother in Italy was dead of the Plague; at which he being affrighted, it pierceth through his Skin, into his imagination, so that he cannot forget it; and it is kindled in him, and this fire doth so long reverberate and worke, as it may be seen in the tryal of Gold and Silver, which do send forth their flowers so long, until they shine bright again; which is not until they are perfectly cleare, and separated from the other impure Metals: After the same manner also the Imagination striketh back, and worketh itself unto the highest degree, and there will be a relucency thereof, now it is received in a vessel in the man, as the sperme of a man is received in the Matrix of the woman, whereby the conception of the woman immediately follows.

"So doth the Pestilence go from one to another, so long till it spread over a whole City or Country: It is good therefore to keep far off; not because of any corrupt or infected Aire, for it infects not the Aire (as some ignorant people say), but that they may not see or heare the operations of the Pestilence, which may infect their mindes. But those people to whom any such newes is reported as beforesaid, ought not to be left alone, neither must they be suffered to muse silently within themselves, whereby Imagination may labour in their mindes; but they are to be comforted, and the Imagination is to be expelled from their mindes, by exciting them to mirth and joy.

"Neither let any think I speak of this as a fable, as though it should seem to be a light business; neither is the remedy so easie for opprest Imaginations; for the Imagination is, as it were, pitch, which easily cleaveth and sticketh, and soone taketh fire, which being kindled, is not so easily extinguished: wherefore the onely remedy to resist the Pestilence in such men is to quench and expel the force of the Imagination."
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Re: Paracelsus, On the Imagination (as a cause of Pestilence)

[personal profile] scotlyn 2025-04-16 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Further to the above, when I looked up the terms Mithridate and Treacle, I was led to articles about ancient "cure all" remedies. Mithridate was called an antidote against all poisons, named after a king who, reportedly, used his prisoners as experimental guinea pigs while perfecting the complicated formula containing 64 ingredients of animal, vegetable and mineral origin. Treacle (or more properly "Venetian Treacle") was a name English apothecaries in R Turner's time would have given to a similar cure-all remedy known as Theriac. Like Mithridate, it contained many expensive ingredients and took a long time to mature to full potency, and was therefore a luxury item sought after by the rich.

Here is a fascinating paper entitled: "Venetian treacle and the foundation of medicines regulation", J. P. Griffin, British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 2004.
https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1365-2125.2004.02147.x

Re: Randomized clinical trial

(Anonymous) 2025-04-16 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a real bust going on in the Bio-Tech-Tech field at the moment, certainly where I live which is a major Tech 'hub', and lots of people are being thrown out of work - a friend who runs a Bio-Med company is swamped by their CVs - and so those who still have jobs will be even less likely to be ethical..... .

Update fron the Netherlands

[personal profile] boccaccio 2025-04-16 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Here’s an update from the Netherlands on Covid and related developments

My general impression is that tensions are high. Many sensitive people seem to have quite a lot of challenges with sleep and emotional, mental or fysical health. Last Monday’s MM saw a lot of talk on strange neurological issues showing up. I was too late to chime in, but my own neurological issues have been bad recently. The past 5-6 weeks I basically had a headache every day. Fellow Dutchman Rintrah shared on his blog that he had such severe acute psychosis that he had to be put in an institution. He seems somewhat better now. My sense is that tensions are still rising and that it becomes ever more difficult to solve everyday conflicts in a constructive manner, but my perception could be colored due to my own struggles.

Dutch organization ANWB reported that this year’s ski season has been brutal. Ski accidents were up +20% from last year which already was a high. The conditions were not especially bad, so they couldn’t give an explanation.

I’ve lost interest in closely following excess mortality but still keep a light tab on it. The general trend is that yearly rates are stable at 8-9% excess mortality compared to pre-Covid rates. Last year saw a declining trend in Q1, but Q2 and Q3 saw an increase such that in Q3 the year so far was the deadliest since the start of the Coof. But Q4 saw a lower than usual excess mortality so that at the end of the year the overall mortality was back at the post-Coof average. My reading of the situation is that we are looking at long-term increase of mortality by 8-9% and that the lower mortality in Q4 can be explained by a pull-forward effect from Q2 and Q3.

More interesting is a breakdown of the mortality in age and gender. Statistician Herman Steigstra did just that. He found that most mortality is in the under 60 yrs category and that the eldest ages have no excess mortality at all. Especially women ages 30-50 are hit hard (+20-30%). Excess mortality in the younger age categories doesn’t show any sign of abating, ominously it actually seems to increase.

The Dutch parliament recently discussed excess mortality with the deputy minister for Health Karremans. Out of 150 members of parliament, no less than 3 MP’s engaged on the subject. They were all from coalition parties. The opposition didn’t even bother to attend the meeting. Two proposals were submitted. One asking for investigation of the excess mortality amongst women 30-50 while the other caught the manipulation of the baseline expectation mortality and wanted Karremans to discuss this with health agency RIVM. Karremans rejected the first proposal because “the numbers weren’t coming from scientists” (abject nonsense of course) and made no serious commitment to the second. A few days later the second proposal was accepted by parliament but it’s clear there won’t be any real action coming from it. All in all a very disappointing showing.

The larger point here is that I notice that issues are not being solved any more and that politics and media focus on irrelevant nonsense to give the populace the illusion that they are working at things. Three weeks ago the coalition almost fell and the media and politicians were screaming from the top of their lungs about it. The issue was embarrassingly irrelevant: a minister didn’t want to give 5 people a non-financial award. Seriously, that was all! In the same week it was announced that 5 refineries and 2 chemical plants are going to shut down, but nobody had time for it. Same with the announcement that Tata Steel is going to downsize 1600 jobs. The deindustrialization is gaining speed and nobody in The Hague notices. If I were in a leadership position I would wonder what 800B euro’s investment in weapons is going to do if we don’t have basic industries to produce steel, fuel and chemicals. Maybe we’re gonna fight the Russians with crossbows? The way it’s going my country will resemble Zimbabwe very fast, of course after the obligatory economic crash followed by civil war. It looks like the issues with the vax will go unnoticed. Soon we will have such immense problems that nobody will care.

(Anonymous) 2025-04-16 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't get excited. This is about FDA bureaucracy and the fees Big Pharma has to pay to get product review. Meryl Nass explains this as an example of "social media journalists writing before educating themselves on the subject". Read her explanation here:
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/hhs-fda-and-rfk-are-being-rolled

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