ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 182

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; ~~public health authorities~~ government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

LOL stubborn ass

I posted that because i am a chemist.

DMSO seems to be a fairly safe chemical by itself.
But because it can dissolve both polar and non polar chemicals and has the ability to cross cell walls it has the potential to affect most biological functions. That is why the Midwest Doc sees it as treating a very wide range of conditions.

That is both a good thing and a potential bad thing.

Washing and rinsing the areas of the body you intend to apply it to, should be standard practice.
I would also NOT recommend that you use gloves when applying to your body. It has the potential to transport some of the chemicals used in making gloves into your body.

If you are experimenting on yourself or your loved ones with this stuff, you should be careful. It looks like it is powerful stuff.

For example: mixing DMSO with fresh castor oil may give very different results than mixing it with old castor oil that may have gone rancid. I don't know and neither do you.

You might want to start small and take careful notes on what happens.

anyone who does not have respect for the potential dangers of chemicals should not be just playing around with them. That is not concern trolling that is basic chemical safety.

dobbs

I will second dobbs' statements. Medicine is not magic - or perhaps it's more correct to say, one should not expect the material world to behave the way you *wish* it would!

Here is another potential concern.
Are you mixing DMSO with something else in a plastic bowl or using plastic utensils?

Have you thought that you might be dissolving some of the phthalates or plasticizers from the plastic and introducing it into your body?

Because that is not something most people would even consider.

Proper handling of chemicals is something to repeated and reinforced on a regular basis, it is not an afterthought!!

Please note that I mentioned the glass bottle in which the DMSO is being mixed gets very hot to the touch. Yes, I have small stainless steel funnels, which I use to pour out the DMSO from the 500ml bottle into 2 100ml dropper bottles (glass again). Once I add the 200ml of reverse osmosis water to the big bottle and 2 dropper bottles, you get to 72% concentration. So I add a bit more water on a rough estimation basis to get to 70%.

Not sure where you get the impression that folks here are playing around with the stuff we're doing.

With DMSO, the only reason why I don't use it daily is the concern that I would build up too much tolerance for it and thus becomes less effective over time, something MWD has mentioned. Right now I'm using it 5 out of 7 days, in varying amounts depending on the application. Another caution she made was not to use DMSO after imbibing alcohol, as it drastically slows down the metabolic clearance of alcohol from the body. With that warning in mind, I've applied DMSO about 2.5 to 3 hrs after having some wine during a family dinner. I'm one of those "happy drunks" and can metabolize alcohol extremely fast (aka it's very very hard for me to get drunk). Self-experiment successful.

As an aside, I've mentioned this before... one of the very key insights from this whole covidian era is that when we find something that is truly safe and effective, those compounds do even more amazing things at a seemingly ridiculously high dosage. For example, the stated dosage for Vit D is 400-600 IU daily... which is way too low once you figure out how much proper sun exposure generates. It was a reasonably large size study of elderly stage 4 terminal cancer patients, given up for dead... and given 50K IU intravenously, and more than 50% recovered. Of course, no followup was ever done. Or taught to oncologists as a baseline treatment.

There's a few other compounds that have been mentioned in these pages... the ones that people have used high dosages for, and were still truly safe and effective. I have NOT pointed them out specifically but have discussed it with just a handful of people I trust, generally offline. Why? Because at even higher dosages, more miracles start to happen and because they are so cheap, instead of the govt/ big-pharma funded MSM demonizing them, we'll end up with outright bans. Just think of the story of DMSO, where it's benefits were already widely known by the 60's and the FDA through its control mechanisms was able to effectively memory-holed it for the better part of over half a century.

My humble advice to those who discover the extra benefits, please keep it close to your chest for a while longer. I believe the ground situation is changing drastically - in a favorable way, but right now the system can still take pre-emptive and draconian measures.

Interesting, thanks Stubborn.

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