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Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 162
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules have been slightly modified:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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There is a word missing from this analysis, and it is "disease".
There is certainly a changing situation where vaccine and DISEASE are interplaying with each other. But (to me) it remains an open question whether "disease" is a term that is interchangeable with "virus".
I have never doubted that Covid is a disease that has certain characteristics - for one thing, I have heard many people describe their Covid experience as being "under attack", and that attack searching for, and sometimes destroying, their personal "weakest link."
But what is a disease? I am not a fan of the "invasive critter" explanation of disease (or many other similar disruptions, such as ecological disease) partly because all of its "solutions" start to look like "kill the critter", and "killing critters" seems to be our civilisation's whole schtick. But "kill the critter" does not appear to be a strategy that is winning us health, or ecological bounty, or anything else that is useful.
Still, I do believe in disease. In TCM we speak of pathogens, and we can still do our work, using a framing that refers to "pathogens" which do not have to be equivalent to, or proxies for, "critters." We still use pathogen names that are metaphoric, but also diagnostically useful - such as climate-derived metaphors - damp, dry, heat, cold, etc. If such an exterior pathogen interacts with the interior of the body, there will be a disease, short or long. The disease will be present as long as there continues to be an INTERACTION between a host and an exterior pathogen. It will end when either - the pathogen is expelled completely, the host is exhausted and dies. But in between these two permanent outcomes, there are many, many in-between states where the interaction is ongoing but the forces have reached a stalemate.
But, we also refer to interiorly derived pathogens. The metaphorical names for these are emotions - anger, fear, grief, etc. When you study the progress of a disease you are mostly looking at what a body actively does, in order to keep the dangers presented by exterior or interiorly derived pathogens minimised, and keep the maintenance and functioning of the body at a maximum, given the circumstances.
No one has ever observed a virus, or a bacterium (or, for that matter, a wind, or a cold, or an anger, or a sadness), causing harm. What we observe are symptoms of a body responding to injury and disruption by its continued mechanisms to pursue the restoration of balance. To me viruses/bacteria/critters, serve as this civilisation's best metaphor for a pathogen, but, while it spurs the development of certain lines of treatment, these lack the finesse that TCM still permits. Kill the critter is, in many cases, seen as a standalone strategy in Western medicine, whereas TCM will always pursue the double headed strategy of weakening the pathogen while strengthening the host.
It is a whole different way to see.
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I've had 5 element acupuncture as well - worked well for me.
Work that out.
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(And despite my long-winded replies elsewhere, we mostly agree, I think).
Be well, stay free.
Scotlyn
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To me the question is whether you can take a whole concept of "clinical disease" OUT, and slot IN "virus" as a fully explanatory replacement. This is what has happened in medicine, where doctors used to "name" diseases after characteristic clinical pictures built up from signs and symptoms. It is only lately that we have substituted naming the "critter" (which sometimes we find with a test, but just as often we fail to find), AS IF it is a sufficient substitute for naming a clinical disease.
In the same way the ecological question would be whether you could take the whole concept of "disrupted ecological web" OUT, and slot IN "weed" or "pest" or "invasive species" as if that were a fully explanatory replacement.
Actually we are often discovering that "weeds", "pests" and "invasive species" are part of an ecology's healing process, and that a simple kill-the-critter approach is simply never going to restore health to the ecology as a whole. Still, there are whole industries catering to people's fear and loathing of "weeds", "pests" and "invasive species" with poisons and other "kill the critter" methods.
In the same way, might we someday discover that viruses and bacteria are playing "healing" roles in the context of a disrupted physiological ecology, that, like the soil, our bodies "call out" for the ministrations of specific viruses and bacteria, and that our simple kill-the-critter approaches will never restore full health to us, either?
These are possibilities worth pondering, are they not?
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