Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 147

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Here We Go: Michigan Confirms First Human Case of High-Risk Bird Flu, Marking Second U.S. Case This Year

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/here-we-go-michigan-confirms-first-human-case/

[(Anonymous)]

He got pink-eye, which may or may not have anything to do with his being around chickens. This is pretty much like previous bird-flu "outbreaks", which resulted in no deaths, no severe illness, not even flu-like illness in humans, and no human-to-human transmission.

For all we've been hearing about bird-flu for decades now, it is a great big nothing-burger. It's just the media running around like Chicken Little screaming that the sky is falling because an acorn fell on somebody's head. Of course, we've seen that they can fabricate a pandemic out of nothing but fake tests and media hype. Don't fall for it again.

[escorcher]

Everything's a great big nothing burger until it isn't (not that I'm trying to sell an 'everything burger' in replacement but maybe there's something).

A repost of my late comment on last week's covid post:

'It's interesting, as ever, because I feel there's something to the bird flu thang and very likely, a reason to have some concern...

But,

But,

The western powers that be do look to be just itching to do a covid re-run.

Anyway, this could be really important for us here all to know: Bird flu H1N5 looks to be more dangerous for mammals if the entry route is oral through to the gut rather than pure respiratory. Dare I say this, that's a similarity with Sars2 (and the mRNA vixens) because it's when these all get in the blood and bodily systems that major damage can happen.

More on bird flu 'via the gut of cats experiment' here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3255817/

'Marked Endotheliotropism of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza Virus H5N1 following Intestinal Inoculation in Cats'

This link is thanks to this Moriarty post:

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/australia-announced-its-first-human

'Australia announced its first human case of Bird Flu
Some avian business'

From this:

"I still stand by all my assertions up to this point, I do not think this should be something to extensively worry about, or worse develop a sort of neuroticism, but understanding how the disease acts is necessary to be able to mitigate or prevent damage. It is especially worrying to me the endothelial tropism, since from any honest perspective, we have hundreds of millions of people with a somewhat compromised, but functional endothelial system."

And...

"Of course, this opens the perfect opportunity, mimicking 2020 for “behavioral units” to start their nudging efforts and unconstitutionally execute psychological operations in their countries."

Such a maze.'

[(Anonymous)]

It's like JMG's thing about all the ends-of-the-world that turned out to not actually be the end of the world (he wrote a whole book about it - Apocalypse Not). On the other hand, who knows? The world might just end one of these days.

I guess you're right in that anything is possible. Just because it hasn't happened so far doesn't mean that it can't happen. But the fact that it's all been lies and over-hyped non-events so far inclines me to think that it is still lies and over-hyped non-events. That will be my default position until I see some good reason to think otherwise.

[stubborn_ass]

I did see your comment from last week, citing Moriaty and Rintrah, but chose to let it go. You have to take a step back and see that both of them are stuck in a certain mental cycle, with very strong prior belief systems that determines how they view things.. and choose to cite selective MSM headlines when it suits their 'forecasting' models.

We're not talking about a nothing-burger here... if you can't see that the effetes are still trying to gin up 'cases' of bird flu infecting people, where if you can even find the source of the article, the 'infected' person barely had any symptoms or likely was suffering from something else, but they called it bird flu. Please remember that many people died from 'covid' in the early stages, when they were actually in the hospital for end-stage lung cancer, serious pneumonia, etc etc. When they needed to up the death tolls, then folks were put on ventilators (while MSM was loudly telling us that it's the only thing that will save them).. or Midzolam in UK. Cortisteriods was successfully used to calm the cytokine storm in seriously ill patients with minimal deaths, then that was taken off the 'accepted' protocol so people were left to suffer till the end. So at some point, they may get so desperate that they declare an official bird flu 'pandemic'. At that point, will you still trust the 'authorities' on prescribed treatment... especially the new mRNA bird flu vexes being 'tested' right now.. or will you instead rely on tried and tested anti-viral protocols that we know actually work, and usually very safe.

So I ask again, what is the value-added that Moriaty and Rintrah is providing at this point? The immune dysfunction and brain damage is now catching up to all the vexed folks around me... it's beyond obvious. We don't need to worry about bird flu when a few folks are still 'boosting' and shedding like crazy, and folks being ill for extended periods of time making economic functions increasingly erratic. Unfortunately I see Moriaty has had a couple of bad episodes with the coof and took a long time to recover - as mentioned before, he seems to actually believe the pharma-driven studies again VIM and purposely chose not to use it and ended up suffering a multitude of damage that he then had to address. Someone else had commented that Rintrah may have consumed a bit too many mushrooms - those are very powerful substances which can either expand your consciousness, or create some short-circuits. You can read the tenor and substance of his articles from the past few months and decide for yourself. My own assessment is that their noise to signal ratio is now too high, and their blind spots are becoming huge gaping holes.

[(Anonymous)]

I put them down as hypochondriacs with mental issues ages ago.

[ecosophia]

I have a simple rule in cases like these. If somebody makes a prediction, and it fails, I expect them to address that failure in some public way, explain what mistake they made, and show some signs of learning from the mistake. I've tried to do this myself with the mistaken predictions I've made from time to time in my blog. If somebody doesn't do this, and just keeps on retailing the same prediction with a new date slapped on it, I stop listening to them.

In both these cases, and also in the case of Geert Vanden Bossche, I've stopped listening to them because in each case they've been saying the same thing for years, always insisting that (x) is going to happen any day now, and no matter how many times (x) doesn't happen they seem unable to learn from that failure.

[escorcher]

GVB has - quite a few times. He's just not very good with interaction and it took him some time to suss out why he got it so wrong e.g. here:

https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/society-in-highly-c-19-vaccinated

"I have extensively reported about why and how immune refocusing caused a substantial delay in the timeline I initially projected for the evolution of more infectious SARS-CoV-2 variants towards increased virulence in highly C-19 vaccinated populations. As successive immune refocusing events occur—transitioning from neutralizing antibodies (Abs) to infection-inhibiting Abs, and then to cellular productivity-inhibiting cytotoxic T lymphocyte (CTL) responses—viral transmission is delayed, providing additional time for the unvaccinated segment of the population to train their cell-mediated innate immunity (via epigenetic reprogramming of Natural Killer cells, which effectively target and eliminate pathologically altered host cells at an early stage of infection)."

In the earlier days of this protracted set of open posts I certainly thought GVB had over-reached and I still think he has in a way. I don't think we will see quite the major, sudden increase in deaths he has warned about. Having said that, it does look like the virus is now heading in a direction where it is devoloping along the lines GVB (and Rintrah) has warned about, becoming supremely able to bypass antibody protection, particularly vixenation produced, and lingering longer in those individuals who catch it. This does seem to be at the cost of overall infectivity however (lower ACE2 affinity), though that's from a really infective 'high'. For instance I noticed this post on X from one of the 'variant followers' a couple of days ago: https://x.com/LongDesertTrain/status/1795899065411981538
"Only a handful seqs of this, but they seem to be spread across the world & already include 2 recombinants. Both S:∆S31 & S:R190T add glycans—sugar chains that can help spike hide from antibodies, among other roles. Glycan experts like fabriziochiodo could say more." The addition of Glycan is a major prediction of GVB.

If I was to offer an analogy I would be looking at the volcanic activity that's been going on in Iceland recently. It's not a 'Krakatoa' by any stretch but a slower, less dramatic burn that's probably as transformative non-the-less.

[escorcher]

Nonetheless, even!

[boccaccio]

I like you're sticking to your guns :-) What you say is plausible, but so far many predictions have turned out wrong. For some reason it is very difficult to predict the evolution of this virus.

I have basically given up after JN.1 late last year. I'm still baffled how this variant could take over the world with all-time high levels in the sewage data yet in the end it was a wave like many others. I thought it had a new tropism but haven't seen any compelling evidence for it. Maybe you have more info, but it seems to be unexplained like so many other facets of the pandemic. The variant before it did probably more damage due to the second order effect of many young children getting pneumonia.

I getting more and more convinced that the developments cannot be explained without taking into account other planes of existence including the beings that dwell there (both the good and the bad ones). Of course that doesn't take away the value of following the scientific developments and statistics etc.

[escorcher]

Thanks for your thoughts, Boccaccio.

I never subscribed to the demon hypothesis. The Gods and collective karma are harsh enough. Guess that means I agree on a 'hidden' side in all this.

As for Geert - his idea on upper back to lower respiratory tract infection leading the way in virulence looks suspect. I also think he thought vixenation was more 'complete' than it was - each shot looks more miss than hit I've come to understand (though some were catastrophic in effect too). With those that keep having them, however, the hits and effects must accumulate. Even given all this I can see this virus finally adapting to the immune landscape in certain regions and current changes in LB.1 seems to suggest this is just happening now. What does this mean? I'd guess more lingering illness and pressure on healthcare in highly vixenated places, especially, but not exclusively, mRNA heavy distributors.
We wait and watch, as ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Humans get a new flu pandemic spreading into us from some animal or other roughly every 30 years on average, sometimes faster sometimes slower.

Some pass nearly unnoticed, like the 2009 swine flu pandemic (which was because we were lucky enough to already have another reasonably closely related flu virus circulating in the human population such that we all had good enough immune memory that it protected us from bad outcomes even if it didn't prevent us from getting sick VERY EASILY from the littlest exposure out of season).

Some kill 2-3% of the global population, like the 1918 flu.

Some are in between, like the 1968 flu pandemic that killed 5+ times as many as a normal flu year without approaching 1918 levels.

It's a throw of the dice, depending on what people of what ages have seen similar flu viruses as children from previous waves and the fine details of the virus, before widespread immune memory eventually neuters it. This virus has a N-protein that we all have a tiny bit of immune memory against, but an H protein that nobody has any useful memory against (other than farmworkers that get these weird infections from animals that are currently dead-ends since it has not yet adapted well to human lung receptors). It's hard to say where on the spectrum this one would lie other than the far worst end is *probably* ruled out between the N protein memory we have and the empirical observation that fewer hospital worthy infections have been noticed since the mutations that lead to the rapid global burn through birds occurred). It would appear though that mammals of the carnivora have a VERY bad time from this virus.

- Tony (the friendly neighborhood biologist returns)

[boccaccio]

The Dutch minister of Health announced recently that she bought some vaccines against bird-flu for "just in case". Comment on X: "You must mean a vaccine for the birds, right?" Let's hope we won't get another episode of vax-insanity

[(Anonymous)]

We might not fall for it: but They will IMPOSE it.

They can confiscate, fine, arrest, slaughter as they please.

How many were really Bolsheviks in 1917 Russia? But they won......

[(Anonymous)]

By my calculations, 'bird flu' is just 'swine flu' with duct tape over the logo.

Synopsis of 1976:
1. Panic ensued when a man died of a mysterious illness at a military base;
2. His death was blamed on the 'swine flu virus' and a vaccination program was hastily foistered on the American public;
3. The said vaccination program was suspended when numerous cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome started popping up, but only in vaccinated patients;
4. In all, there were about two dozen deaths linked to the vaccine, and a grand total of only one (yes, count them: one) death that may or may not have been from the alleged virus as the testing was inconclusive;
5. Ford lost to Carter in November, and the whole filthy business promptly went in under the nearest rug.

2024 is another election year (as was 2020), so here come the clowns!

[(Anonymous)]

At least they had the decency and honesty to actually suspend it. You can still get jabbed today.