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Dear JMG,

My prayers and thoughts continue to be with you and Sara.

Some random questions for you and the commenters:

1. JMG, you said that Archangel's power would reach the Milky Way. What would be the reach of a Divine Name or an Angel (or angelic choir)?

2. Have you ever heard - or has anyone here - of a book called “Remmaping your mind. The neuroscience of self-transformation”, by Lewis Mehl-Madrona? I'm thinking about buying it but I'd like to read reviews.
I think about how neuroscience can help with magic and our personal transformation. In this sense, does anyone know of other books on the subject or that correlate magic and neuroscience?

3. Beginner's question: when we leave the body during sleep or in a guided astral project are we in yesod?

4. Last: things are breaking down here at home. Bed, toilet, bank losses. What can we magically do to ward off this tide of expenses?

Thanks a lot for the help

1) Any divine power, whether or not expressed by a name, has infinite reach. An angel's work is typically limited to a single solar system.

2) I'm not familiar with it. Anyone else?

3) That depends very much on how exactly you interpret the Tree of Life. In the system I use, yes, most of the time; it's sometimes possible to rise to Hod or Netzach in dreams.

4) Well, what kind of magic do you know how to do?

4. planetary, Christian, folk… I like using candles, saying prayers and invocations. I thought about how it causes an astrologically bad period, but which is taking a long time to pass. Interestingly, I dreamed about this bathroom problem, which seemed like something out of a comedy film. Something to stop Mercury's pranks? Or would it be a job for St. Michael?

If you want to keep Mercury in line, and you're comfortable invoking angels, St. Raphael is the regent of Mercury and also a guide through challenging situations. A candle and a daily or twice-daily prayer to him would certainly help.

I guess then, St.Michael is the Regent of Mars?

The Grey Badger

Nope, Michael is the regent of the Sun. Camael is the regent of Mars.

(For some reason the regents of the three outer classical planets never got the same attention those of the inner planets got. Sachiel is the recent of Jupiter and Cassiel is the regent of Saturn, in case you were wondering.)

3. I think 90% of the things I saw in sleep or guided projection were scary: strange entities, lost people without knowing where they were, but the geography of the place was almost identical to reality. The coolest thing I saw were beings of light helping a person who was lying on the ground. What kind of images should you expect in Hod or netzah?

All images are from Yesod, the Treasure House of Images. Hod brings intellectual insight and Netzach brings emotional and aesthetic perceptions.

Does this imply that scrying takes place in Yesod?

Our perception of scrying takes place by way of the Yesod aspect of ourselves.

An angel's work is typically limited to a single solar system.

Could this be seen that angels are part of the Sun's work to steer humanity. Could angels be part of the Sun nervous system? Then is an archangel part of the "nervous system" of the Milky Way, is Milky Way Kali? Then we are essential to the planet because we pray to angels and angels connect to the sun.
There is this theory that the Moon is artificial. Was the moon brought by the Sun , or even Milky Way to fulfill some prayers in the past?

I heard at some point that there are small microgravity anomalies, and there is this theory of Eric Verlinde that has some traction that gravity is entropic. The Sun can generate everything with microgravity anomalies. And steer everyting into position in timespans humans cannot even follow.

I had a period of Sun worship and it was one of the best periods in my life. I still think Christianity has a Sun worship component, among others.

In the occult traditions I follow, the Sun is the body of the Solar Logos, who is basically the god of this solar system. The angels are beings of a previous evolution who have completed the path we're on now and achieved perfect harmony with the Solar Logos. The archangels or Star Logoi are also of a previous evolution; they also work in perfect harmony with the Solar Logos, but their work consists of mediating the influences of the wider Cosmos to this solar system, which is why their reach is so great.

If Sun worship works well for you, why not pick it up again? It's an old and honorable practice found in nearly every religious tradition.

If Sun worship works well for you, why not pick it up again? It's an old and honorable practice found in nearly every religious tradition.

I somehow feel I am not ready again, I will take it gradually.

Would gods from popular mythologies of the past like Helios/Sol, be the equivalent of the Solar Logos?

Yes. Some occult writings I've read explicitly equate sun gods such as Apollo and Ra with the Solar Logos.

Hi JMG and Anon,

I haven't read that book by Mehl-Madrona and Mainguy, but I do know them and have collaborated with them on a couple of different projects. I have also taken some online workshops with them which were very good. I found their discussions on the neuroscience of trauma quite helpful.

I teach here a a local uni and use Lewis' book, Coyote Medicine in my class. Chapter 4, Healing Stories, is quite good and the students love it. He's a Native psychiatrist and his wife, Barbara, is a licensed clinical social worker. In all of their work they are working on bridging the divide between indigenous healing perspectives and western perspectives by focusing on the strengths of each. They work at the University of Maine. Happy to chat more about this if you would like.

JMG, it's nice to have you back.

Hope this helps, Nicky.

Dear Nick,
What a fantastic experience you have had.
I'll look into Coyote Medicine too.
What I'm looking for is how to use neuroscience for behavioral changes and, in some way, use it for magical purposes.
And thank you very much for the recommendations and comments!

Hi,
It is a bit late in the game but you could certainly benefit from picking up a copy of, "Your Money or Your Life," by Vicky Robinson and Joe Dominguez. It is a magic book in that it changes your consciousness in accordance with will and suddenly, you are no longer hemorrhaging money.

The stuff on investments is no longer accurate but the rest of the text on frugality will get you there.
Maxine

I agree it's an excellent book. It would be excellent for every high school student before they're confronted with life! I'd never thought of the book as magic. I guess its profound definition of money, and its central question - did you get your money's worth? - are changes in consciousness.

Mocha Amphibious Moose

Hello JMG,
Thank you for keeping this space. I have an astrology question. Some consider such points as AC, IC, and Nodes to be legitimate points to form aspects, like Mercury opposition AC, for example. Others say that only planets can form aspects and in my example Mercury has nobody to talk to and, therefore, there is no aspect. What is your take on this topic?
Kirsten

I've seen arguments for both views. My suggestion? Pay attention to what happens when you make predictions based on aspects to nonplanetary points, and see if those predictions work out or not. That should give you a clear sense of whether the nonplanetary points are relevant in this context.

Would you like me to look at your chart? I can look at the placement of your Mercury and explain what I see.
If so pm me the data

JMG,

With respect to the heathen MP you laid out a few years ago, the opening is performed with the LBRP, is it acceptable to switch that out for the LSRP or does the MP require that it is a banishing with it?

Thanks,
HV

It requires a banishing. The banishing cleans your aura and the energies of the place where you do the working, and the Middle Pillar then invokes balanced positive energies into you and the space.

As a follow up then, the LBRP and LSRP can be alternated in order to balance out the banishing with invoking, is the MP providing the banishing and invoking in a single ritual? Or would there still be an advantage to separately practicing the LSRP? Thanks

Most people, once they add the MP, stop doing the LSRP precisely because the MP is an invocation and thus balances the LBRP. There's very little practical use for the LSRP -- it's taught to give beginners a chance to work on invoking before they take up the MP.

Greetings JMG,

In the last post on the main blog there was a brief mention of Cathars and Endura. To which you wrote:
“as all serious occultists she remembered a Cathar life”
This got my mind spinning and I have been reading up online about the Cathars, The Albigensian Crusade, Bogomilism, the Balkan crusades and so on.

The common factor in all the online sources I found was a certain superficiality and insufficiency. For instance; Yes, the Cathars were supposed to be dualists and some superficial explanation of what that might be. But why would this be so wrong as to require a crusade?
Also there were multiple waves of crusades. On the other side of the Adria the Hungarians were launching crusades against the Balkan’s for centuries, sanctioned by the church , until the Turks came.
I somehow gut the Radience wibe reading about it.

Could you be persuaded to write about the Cathars?
Why were they apparently so important for occultists?
Why did they have to be wiped out?

Best regards,
V

What made the Cathars and Bogomils so terrifying to the mainstream churches is that they were Gnostics -- in other words, they taught people how to experience the spiritual realms for themselves, rather than demanding that they have blind faith in whatever a church hierarchy happens to tell them about the spiritual realms. It didn't help, of course, that the Cathars took their moral and personal teachings more seriously than the mainstream churches took theirs -- one of the reasons so many people converted to Catharism in France, for example, is that Cathar perfecti lived lives of voluntary poverty and asceticism, while Catholic bishops wallowed in luxury at the expense of their parishioners.

One correction, though -- I didn't say that all serious occultists had Cathar lives; I didn't have one, for example. It's just quite common for serious occultists these days to have had a Cathar incarnation.

That is true, apologies, I wrote from memory. Would I quote you then the expression that you used would be “a lot of”.

I must admit I am confused by the Cathars, ever since my history teachers made such claims as “they said sex trapped souls in this material world, hence it was bad. And that is why they had to be persecuted” it makes no sense. If you got people who do not want to procreate, then just wait them out. Why the crusade?

I get the same feeling with the statement, that a lot of serious occultists today had Cathar lives, there are 8 centuries in between. Presumably they had several lives in between. I would think they would continie the work.

It all seems like I do not know enough.
Are there any good, and unbiased sources on the Cathars and Gnostics?

1) There's a lot of misstatements and old propaganda about all the Gnostics, and the Cathars got more than their share.

2) Of course there were other lives in between. Sara had six lives that she remembered between her Cathar life and the one that just ended.

2) Bentley Layton's The Gnostic Scriptures is a very good collection of original sources, which includes Cathar literature.

Good Evening,

Very thankful to have Magic Mondays back, and I hope that the work is helpful and healing to you, JMG, rather than a burden. This space is a huge boon to those of us who learn from you, so thank you for once again providing it in such a tough time. Even if you're not just being gracious by saying doing the work helps, it must still not be easy, and the rest of us still benefit, so thank you. I hope that JMG and everyone else here is finding the comfort needed to deal with whatever is hard in life right now.

To Share: I read a lovely little book on the development of the Rosary in the late Middle Ages called Stories of the Rose, and I've gathered my thoughts here: https://jpowellrussell.com/#book_stories_of_the_rose

To Ask: Have you, JMG, ever heard of "tapping" as a practice? It seems to derive from TCM meridians, but has become something of a pop movement for releasing blockages in the energetic body. If anyone else has experiences or thoughts on it, I'd welcome hearing those as well, of course.

As always, thanks very much to JMG and everyone else here for all that you do.

My blessings to all who welcome them,
Jeff

Thanks for this. I've heard the term "tapping" now and then but never followed up on it and so don't know anything worth mentioning about it. Anyone else?

I tried it. No effect.

Princess Cutekitten

All I know about it is Prince Harry is a devotee of tapping. Personally, that's enough reason for me to run in the opposite direction very fast.

Hi all.

It so happens that I encountered "tapping" in the context of hypnosis. In modern hypnosis, the underlying theory or narrative tries to stay away of anything that could smell esoteric, but the technique itself is practiced. I have used it myself and found it very useful.

Without going into details, they way I learned it is to use tapping gently on a part of the person's body with rhythm varying in sinc with leading the person's active imagination towards a troublesome experience and away from it. The idea revolves around the concept of anchoring/unanchoring a feeling, and seems to be related, at least to some extent to the ocular motion techniques (eg FIMO).

As you see, here the concept doesn't use any meridian energetic models, but I thought those literature pointers might be on topic.

With my best
Seb

I used tapping for a little while back in 2015 when I was having serious bouts of anxiety back in 2015. It worked fairly well for what I needed then, getting me through a rough spot in my life, but what really got me through was prayer and meditation. It was a useful adjunct to my strategies for coping, but I didn't stick with it for more than a year. Thinking of it again in the context of MOE work, reflexology and other energy body work it might be something worth revisiting.

Justin Patrick Moore

I've followed "tapping," (originally called the Emotional Freedom Technique) pretty much since it started thirty years ago. I still have somewhere the first book on the subject by a couple of medical researchers who discovered that symptoms of stress could be alleviated by tapping with the fingers on certain acupuncture meridian points while talking about the problem. By trial and error, they isolated about fifteen points on the body and the fingers of the hand which seemed to be effective, and arranged them in descending order. Some scientific research has been done since, but as far as I know has not been pursued: there's no money in it, for example.

The usual protocol is to take a statement like "I feel depressed about the world" or "I'm too agitated to sleep" and to repeat it while tapping the so-called "karate chop" point on the base of the hand. But from experimentation, the phrase developed into "Even though ... (something) .. I deeply and completely accept myself." Quite why this works is unclear, but it does. After that, you go through the various meridian points, beginning with the eyes and finishing once more on the karate chop point. Normally, after three repetitions, you feel some relief of the symptoms, and some schools of EFT actually have you track your feelings on a 1-10 scale. Physically, the effect is very like the results of the kind of energy exercises often discussed here.

Of course, in our society, anything that can be commercialised will be, so there are people out there asking a small fortune for weekend courses and personal training, but actually everything you need to get started is available on the Internet, mostly for free. Two sites that are useful are Nick Orton: https://www.thetappingsolution.com, which is a bit, um, Californian, but has lots of good free material, and Steve Wells's site https://www.eftdownunder.com, which is more down-to-earth Australian. Wells has experimented with various related techniques which are also effective. In general, EFT seems to work for physical as well as emotional problems, and problems of motivation, energy, diet and many other things. Some users have claimed that they can make electrical equipment work again.

EFT is clearly accessing the same energies as Magic does, and I would hazard a guess that it works on the etheric level. It is also a useful adjunct to meditation. If, say, you were meditating on why you were having problems learning and repeating some magical routine, you might realise that it brought back memories of being forced to learn and repeat things as a child. So you might add a session of EFT: "Even though this memory is interfering with my practice" or "Even though I can't get rid of this memory ..." or whatever proves effective. Indeed, the main characteristic of EFT is that it is entirely pragmatic as a discipline.

Hope this helps

Aurelien

I've come across 'tapping' as Emotional Freedom Technique, and its often taught alongside affirmations, whereby you repeat the affirmation as you tap the meridian points. I was not very impressed with the way it was introduced to me, so I didn't really follow up on it, but like a lot of these techniques, it probably works great for some people and does very little for others.

Dear Jeff

I think tapping is also known at Emotional Freedom technique. Here are a coupe of links:

https://www.tappingsolutionfoundation.org/howdoesitwork/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Freedom_Techniques

https://grainnemoneill.com/eft-therapy/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiJ_KioLJhAMVpItQBh2zTAIXEAAYASAAEgI-nfD_BwE

Jasmine

I'm familiar with tapping as part of qigong practice. Maybe this is where the EFT people picked up on it. It's designed to stimulate and release blockages from the same points used by acupuncture (my personal favorite is the part of the lung meridian just under the collarbones--I really feel that one). It's about as effective as any other qigong motion, which is to say, a small subtle effect that can add up something significant when used consistently and in combination with other qigong.

Hi Jeff,
I have some experiencing with the form of tapping known as the Emotional Freedom Technique. Here’s a link to a free manual on EFT:
https://eftinternational.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/EFT-International-Free-Tapping-Manual.pdf

The Emotion Code is another method people use to release trapped emotions from the body using one of the central meridians. Bradley Nelson, the creator, wrote a book about it intended for the general public. I don’t have much experience with this one

While I found EFT helpful to settle extreme emotions, I did not find it helpful for creating emotional completion and hence lasting change. In my opinion there is no free lunch because unfinished emotions are often related to how we learned to relate ourselves as a result of the traumatic environments we grew up in. For many people this meant either stuffing their emotions or not learning to contain them appropriately. In my experience we have to explore our relationship to ourselves in order to develop the agency and capacity necessary to truly complete our old emotions. That's how it has worked for me anyway through working with very competent therapists. As a result I can tolerate my anger and grief as energy communicating something to me about what I need and want and let it move through my body and out. And then I decide what if any actions to take. As a result of this agency and capacity, I rarely react to experiences any more.

I'll throw my two cents in, too... :D It seems that people refer to different techniques by the word "tapping". I'm using the word for EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique), as already explained by some others here.

I've used EFT extensively, and have made very good experiences with it.

It helps to release "stress" of any sorts which is stored in the energy body (and through the energy body, also stress stored in the physical and astral body, methinks).

Oftentimes when I'm working on certain issues in my life (e.g. emotional, old patterns, thoughts, habits, worldview or view of self, etc), realizing these things is the first step, processing them on an intellectual level is a second step, but then they might still be stuck in these other parts of the system, and reaching these subconciously stored issues purely through conscious effort can be difficult. Tapping helps to reach these subconscious places, and to release stuff there.

It's also really easy and simple to learn and to practice, although one should be aware that it can bring up a flood of "old stuff" - or, in other words, I wouldn't tap on a deep-reaching topic in a public place... ;-)

Also, it works differently than e.g. affirmations. With tapping, one can (and should) also tap on the negative stuff, and not just on the positive. It's important to "reach" the stress while tapping, so that it can be released, and there is usually at least as much stress stored on the "negative" worldview (i.e. the things you'd like to get rid of) as there is stored with the "positive" worldview (i.e. the things you want to achieve).

For example, if you had issues with self esteem, it's smart to tap both on things like "I'm a loser and will never get anything done" and on "I do a great job and people admire me for my work", as it's highly likely that both phrases will cause stress for you, albeit of a different kind.

Other people have already linked to resources. In a nutshell, you just need to learn a few points on your face and upper body, and/or a few points on your hands (to be used in addition or alternatively). Then you simply "tap" on these points gently (or rub them), as the name says, while you say (aloud if possible) the things you are grappling with.

Don't be put off if some videos on youtube are super-hypey, you just need to pick up the right points. ;-) Don't also be put off if some instructions insist on a specific technique ("rate your stress on a scale from 1 to 10, start on the karate chop point, then tap on it X rounds, then rate your stress level again yadda yadda").

In my experience, none of this is necessary (although you can certainly go for it if you find it helpful!). Free-form tapping works just as effectively. You can just pick a topic you'd like to work on, and tap away while you say whatever comes to mind.

Of course, tapping is just a tool. As all tools, it's great for some jobs, and not so great for others. And as all tools, it will be a better fit for some people than for others, or for some periods on one's life than for others. And as all tools, it's a tool and not a miracle cure. You can't expect to tap on some deep-seated issue for five minutes and be done with it!

Overall, though, I can highly recommend it - and I would also expect it to go very well with the OSA work, since the OSA topics are exactly the kind of things which EFT works very well for.

Hope this helps!

Milkyway

Glad you enjoyed "Stories of the Rose," Jeff! I read it three times while I was working out my own prayer bead practice.

--Sister Crow

Hi Jeff, some of the accounts of tapping reminded me of the "amygdala clicking" practice identified with T.D. Lingo. A real character and the subject of some Web 1.0 sites:

https://www.neilslade.com/TDLingo.html
https://bookofwands.com/papers/crazy.html
https://tdlingo.wordpress.com/2019/02/16/42/

Thanks for these, I can tell just from skimming that they're going to be a bit of a wild ride to check out, so should be fun, and was not something I had heard of before, so nice to have another avenue to research.

Thank you to everyone who has shared your thoughts on tapping! I'm posting a single reply to save our host from needing to approve extra comments.

It sounds like it's something that works well for some and not for others, and like it's primary benefit for those for whom it works is "unsticking" unhelpful thoughts and feelings, however it is it does that (but probably energetically). It also sounds like there are a lot of resources available, with varying levels of hype and detail, but the core method is pretty simple and easy to learn.

I've experimented a bit after

milkyway recommended it to me a while back, and it's seemed to have some effect, but I haven't done it very consistently yet, so I appreciate the different perspectives everyone offered here - I think I'll try doing it a bit more consistently for a bit and see if helps.

Thank you again!

They incorporated EFT (tapping) into the thai yoga school curriculum (thai yoga has it's own acupressure point system and this technique was considered a beneficial integration.)

Many others have already broken down the technique. For me, I understand it as an integration - in it, I think and speak a truth, while taking action (tapping,) and receiving action (being tapped,) and this combo helps me to get all systems on the same page.

I've had beneficial results from it. It seems particularly suited to helping wind down emergency systems. When myself or someone else is panicking, or in some other sort of distress, or experiencing acute pain or sensation, the integration and rhythm of the technique seem to turn of the alarms, and allow the person to regain higher functioning. I've seen this with child nightmares and fears, and for myself with emotional upset and some types of headaches.

Wishing you well, Jeff.

I skimmed the book that originated it: The Tapping Solution. It was good, but compared to acupressure/Do-In, alternate nostril breathing or the Healing Hands I found it underpowered, though I was glad some common sense regarding the body was getting common again --for as much as I hate when some tradition gets gutted, abstracted for the marketing department's sake and rebranded for profit and personal aggrandizement as some novelty tv-ad-product spear-headed by another suited guy. Too reminiscent of The Secret for me, if I can be sour for a moment. And the ads where they had children film themselves tapping and saying to themselves "I am safe" were really cringy. Hey, you asked :-)

Edit: That's for the "branded" one, though it seems to be a much widely used term to refer to a bunch of tecniques.

Edited 2024-02-27 00:18 (UTC)

Good morning (or probably good night),

Thanks a lot for offering Magic Monday again - I hope our questions will be good company for you today. :-)

1. to everybody: I offer weekly blessings for everybody who signs up:

https://thehiddenthings.com/weekly-blessings-8

You'd actually do me a favour by participating, as I want to practice my blessing skills, especially for larger groups of people. Thanks!

2. to JMG: You wrote on the main blog that "a lot of serious Western occultists these days remember a Cathar life"- That must have been quite a concentration of occultists (or people on the verge of becoming an occultist) back then in some very specific areas of the world.

Do you have any ideas as to why that was the case?

And is such a cluster a common occurence?

(I know that e.g. Prague was an occult center back in the day, but I'd imagine a lot of occultists weren't born there, but flocked there because of the conditions. Whereas for the Cathars, people back at that time probably would have had to be born at least in the right place in order to know of the movement at all, let alone participate.)

Thanks for your insights this week, and I wish you a wonderful and healing ceremony, full of old and new memories, on the shoreline of the Seekonk river.

Milkyway

In the 11th and 12th centuries the south of France was a very cosmopolitan place, with burgeoning cities and important trade links with all the major Mediterranean ports of the Byzantine and Arab worlds. People came there from a great many parts of Europe and the Mediterranean world -- and the Cathars were anything but secret at the time, of course. That said, as I understand it, a great many souls who were pursuing the occult path were born in the region, partly because of the Cathar presence and partly because of some of the other spiritual movements in that place and time -- that's where the Cabala came into being, for example.

Thanks, that makes sense from the practical end.

I still find it curious that so many "occultist souls" should pick an incarnation as Cathar as part of their personal development.

I wonder if this was solely due to the rather gruesome aspect of getting rid of old karma through being prosecuted, or if there was something else behind it, e.g. in the forms of Cathar teachings or their way of life? (Or maybe I'm overthinking and it just was the occult hotbed of the time, and thus the most obvious place to flock to?). Would you happen to have any thoughts or ideas about this?

Milkyway

It's an interesting question to which I don't happen to know the answer. What I know is simply that a lot of serious occultists over the last century or so who've recalled their past lives have remembered a Cathar life, and yes, quite a few of those ended at the stake.

Their emphasis on personal experience makes a good karmic pattern for a future occultist I think, since you mentioned their way of life.

I remember you mentioning that the Cabala wasn't Jewish originally but they revived it in medieval southern France. It was based on Pythgoras' teachings iirc. Why did Jews at the time decide to do this? Is there a book on the link between the ancient Greeks and the Cabala that emerged in medieval southern France?

Keep in mind that the Jewish communities in the Mediterranean world weren't isolated in ghettos the way they were in central and eastern Europe; they were full participants in the society of their time, and the rabbinical circles in Toulouse and Narbonne that picked up Gnostic ideas and adapted them to Jewish use were simply part of a very broad trend of interest in Gnostic, Pythagorean, and Platonic ideas. As for books, not to speak of, since it's a hot-button issue; Gershom Scholem's The Origins of the Kabbalah is about as close as there is.

A fascinating period!

Rather like Andalusia at its peak, where races and religions mixed to some extent, teachers could work openly,and ancient spiritual currents could surface despite orthodox repression and antagonism, eg Sufism.

The cultural area in which Cathars could move was notably very wide at that time: for instance, those who spoke not just Occitan, but any of the southern Romance dialects - such as the Arpitan of my direct ancestors - could live and, more importantly, work and trade happily in France, Spain or northern Italy, in any of the kingdoms or dukedoms and principalities.

However, all things tend to corruption, and the Perfects could degenerate into parasites - just like the later Franciscan friars - and I have read accounts of elderly people being forced to go through the endura somewhat unwillingly by relations intent of getting rid of them under the pretext of giving them a good death.....

Oh, of course! Humans gonna human, and all that. It's simply that, like the Franciscans, the Cathars were less corrupt at the time than the mainstream hierarchy.

Good morning and thank you as always for your generosity in providing this space, especially after recent events.

I’ve encountered people in my life who have levels of physical energy and capacity for activity that seems in excess of what their lifestyles would explain. A friend is like this—he doesn’t exercise, doesn’t sleep well, drinks too much, and is indifferent to his diet; nevertheless he’s always raring to go like an energizer bunny (and I’m confident he’s not using any illicit substances to get there).

Could it be that this sort of thing has an etheric body component? I’ve also noticed that people like this also often have a charisma and presence in excess of their physical form.

Yes, very much so. It's the etheric body, not the material body, that determines how much vital energy you have, how vulnerable you are to illnesses, and so on.

In that case, what would you recommend in order to keep one's etheric body in good shape (or to build it up from a point of neglect)?

Would the basic practices be of use, or is this where spiritual practice come in? I would also guess disengaging from mass media would play a role?

The mass media don't affect your etheric body much -- well, sitting in front of a screen or other electronic device too much is a strain on the etheric body, but the content of the mass media messes with your astral body, not your etheric body. The basic practices for strengthening the etheric body are:

- deep breathing of clean fresh air
- regular washing in cool or cold water
- a diet rich in unprocessed foods
- regular light to moderate exercise
- deep physical relaxation

You can supplement all of this with healing practices that charge and cleanse the etheric body; nearly all alternative health care methods do this.

Makes sense when I lived at the Beach I took a lot of walks and it did me good.

Sorta dangerous and unhealthy trying it where I live.

Salt spray cleans etheric crud out of the air, so taking a walk on the beach is a very good way to get your etheric body in better shape.

What could I do to make my home and especially my room better for my etheric (and other) bodies

If you can get sunlight into it, and keep it relatively clean and well ventilated, that will help. Mostly, though, work on your body, not your room!

What have you found to be the best ways to strengthen your etheric body?

See my response to Miow above. I'll probably do a post about it one of these days!

If anyone has any known traditions or evidence of natal Mars placement/dignities being related to energetic etheric force and/or abundance, i would like to know more aout that.

I read once that sitting with your back against the trunk of the biggest, oldest tree you can find is a good way to recharge the etheric body. Sadly for me I don’t reliably have that option, but I plan to experiment with it in the future.

Not all trees are equally friendly. Just sayin.

I know this for a fact. When I moved here 4 years ago most trees in the wood were hostile to me. It took many respectful walks and offerings to the local whatever they are in the wood, but now they accept me, some even sort of like me, I think.

On most days when I do the GSF lodge ritual I get super charged and have quite a bit of energy for a variety of work and it seems to keep going most of the day. Some days this isn't the case, but then I think that energy must be being used elsewhere for other work, or there are other factors at play. But in general, it gives me a huge boost of productive energy.

Justin Patrick Moore

There might be a downstream from astral influence though, if you check their natal chart. One of my kids is like that he has mars and north node in first house with sun in Gemini with mercury in 12th, the kids turbo powered lol.

In the MOE lessons spirit guides are mentioned. What's the protocols for contacting spirit guides and working with them? Is it the same as working with guides in pathworkings? (Prayer for a guide, asking any guide that appears in the pathworking if they come in the name of whatever divine power you prayed to, etc.?)

That's a complex question. The concept of spirit guides came into American occultism from Spiritualism, since most mediums have one. I recommend waiting until a spirit guide shows up, rather than going out of your way to trying to get one, and testing the prospective spirit guide thoroughly before making any commitment to work with it -- there are a lot of parasitic and predatory spirits out there. A spirit guide worth following won't make predictions that turn out to be false, for example.

Following on from this, does that mean in the MOE, we shouldn't attempt Soul Retrieval until after a spirit guide has shown up and been tested?

That depends on personal issues. I recommend using divination to sort such things out.

Thank you for pointing this out. Not a lot of discussion about the fact that "just because it's an entity without a physical body doesn't mean it's harmless and/or nice and/or kindly disposed to you". That's a major reason esoteric hygiene is so important.

A few weeks ago, I mentioned Edwin C. Steinbrecher's book "The Inner Guide Meditation." You might find it helpful. He explains how in 1969 he started to combine Jungian depth psychology with Golden Dawn inspired astrology, tarot, and kaballah symbolism. After testing these techniques with many others, he wrote the book in 1988. He explains how the true inner guide is described in the natal 9th house (with a Koch chart), false imposters in the 3rd house.

"If anyone is channeling "guidance" for you or for a group which you are in, it would be useful to apply the following tests to the entity which is being channeled. True Inner Guides have the following traits:
1) A feeling of love for the individuals they teach and guide;
2) Never volunteer information unless first asked;
3) Generally don't make predictions for you or others;
4) Don't judge you or anyone else, nor do they take sides in disagreements;
5) Will not contact the dead for anyone but the individual whose Guide they are;
6) Will not give information about other people;
7) Do not manifest through automatic writing, ouija boards, channeling or trance states;
8) Are always accepting of where you are emotionally, physically, mentally and spiritually;
9) Don't lie or give inaccurate information, nor are they inconsistent;
10) Often answer questions with questions, teaching in the Socratic mode.

False inner guides are recognizable by the following:
1) Volunteer information freely, some of which may be valid. They are often very long-winded. Information from false guides fill many books while the true Guides practice economy of speech;
2) Judge you or others, or try to make you feel "evil," wrong, or guilty;
3) Communicate often in terms of separation and polarization, e.g. good vs. evil, right vs. wrong, the good guys vs. the bad guys;
4) May make you uncomfortable or ill, or draw illness and unfortunate outer world circumstances into your life;
5) Inflate the ego. They often make you feel that you are a "chosen one," a "walk-in," better, higher, more special or more spiritual than others;
6) Are often known figures from your own reality, e.g., famous gurus, saints, dead relatives, historical figures, or figures from your fantasy system, e.g., entities claiming to be from outer space or other galaxies, or they may be disincarnate entities or one of the archetypes, the latter being quite dangerous to sanity. In order to work with the archetypes safely, it is absolutely necessary to have the true Inner Guide, who has the ability to protect you from an overwhelming archetypal energy or to pull you out of the situation, if necessary;
7) Make the conditions of your life worsen;
8) Will lie or exaggerate, or are inconsistent;
9) Will flatter and agree with your ego's opinions; usually they are definite Yes-men or -women;
10) Are usually quite theatrical, making grandiose claims about themselves, and, when channeled, speak with strange accents and gesticulate in bizarre ways or cause strange body movements to occur in the naive channeler, who is generally sincerely ignorant of who or what is being channeled or the danger of the process he or she is involved in.

If a supposed guide exhibits any of the above behaviors, be sure that a false guide is in attendance."

Christopher from California

Hi JMG,

blessings to you, if you will have them. I have a couple of queries about the CGD.

1. I've reached the Work of Fire but am having trouble visualising the Sign of Fire. Is it similar to the Sign of Water (as in a triangle) but with the thumb-forefingers against the forehead and pointing up? The "press the back of your hands to your forehead" is confusing me.

2. And a pronunciation query - if Elw is pronounced El-oo then should Sulw be pronounced Sill-oo? p33 of my edition says "Sill-w", which isn't quite the same.

My thanks as ever for your gracious time.

1) Yes. Make a triangle with your thumbs and forefingers, pointing upward, and press it against your forehead so that the palms of your hands are facing forward, away from your face. If your face is relatively thin, the backs of your hands won't touch your face.

2) Ah, pronunciation! In the western Washington accent I grew up with, w is pronounced "oo." A very short "oo," but an "oo."

Edited (typo) 2024-02-26 15:06 (UTC)

But it is part of the same syllable, correct? Meaning, when vibrated you don't extend the "oo". Or do you?

The hyphen in these pronunciation guides is a syllable break. Thus El-oo and Sill-w are both two syllable words.

I've been pronouncing it wrong all this time! I think I've read them at least a dozen times but indeed, there is a hyphen on the instructions.

I'm the person who asked you about using magick on your frugal Friday thread.

I have a question about geomancy divination. I'm finding it hard to gain advice from the geomancy for my situation. I haven't asked the question about what should I do both magically and mundanely yet

For example, can I ask questions such as, 'Is this job worth applying to?' to avoid the hassle of applying to positions I don't even qualify for?

I was thinking of using geomancy this way to cut down on sending constant job applications and see the general pattern of what kind of jobs the geomancy thinks I am suitable for and why. What do you think of this strategy?

2nd, do we always look to the 10th house for the job itself and 7th house for the competing candidates? What about the 4rth (end of the matter) and 6th house? (house of servants)?

What other houses should I be looking for in this situation?

1) You can ask geomancy any question with a yes or no answer. Yes, that one will be fine. As for the strategy, why not cast and interpret a chart asking if that strategy is a good one for you?

2) Overthinking a geomantic chart is the easiest way to miss what it's trying to say. If you're asking a yes or no question about a job using a geomantic house chart, the only thing that matters is whether there's a mode of perfection connecting the first and tenth houses. If there is, the answer is yes; if there isn't, the answer is no. Once you know that, other houses can be brought in to add nuance, but you can get yourself hopelessly confused by trying to integrate a flurry of different houses before you've paid attention to the basic answer.

>As for the strategy, why not cast and interpret a chart asking if that strategy is a good one for you?

I'm afraid that if I interpret it wrong, I might follow the wrong advice.

Checking the perfection first between the significators does sound plausible. My question to you was prompted by the fact that a new job appeared related to my field which I hoped to be qualified for, so I threw the dice and asked if it's worth applying to. Geomancy always grants out more information than a simple yes/no answer. The Judge was conjunctio (I find this figure so confusing), the LW and RW were respectively Puella & Puer. The first house figure was Tristitia and the 10th house figure was Conjunctio. No perfection, so no hope. But I still applied because I wanted to see if I even get a response and the judge wasn't a tough no (such as carcer, tristitia, populus) , and all tell me that job ads always exaggerate their required experience and qualifications but it seems the geomancy Gods seem to disagree with that.

I can of course ask the question, 'What do I need to do get a job in my field?' and I can also ask the question, 'What magick is best for this?' but the latter seems to be a very advanced question since it asks for very specific information.

Element Earth is the element of jobs, Jupiter and Sun are the planets, Virgo (6th house) and Capricorn (10th house) are the signs, but so far none have worked for me which is why I got into geomancy.

That is to say, you got an accurate answer -- no -- but didn't pay attention to that. That's how most people fail to make good use of geomancy. If you cast a chart about the strategy, again, pay attention to the presence or absence of a mode of perfection and that will give you a firm, unmistakable yes or no answer.

That's what Sam Block told me as well. That the chart is never inaccurate but our interpretation of it is.

But what does your wisdom recommend besides geomancy? Could there be an internal spiritual issue with me that's stopping me from success here?

Or a specific occult force I have not tried...such as Mars? The planet that bulldozes through obstacles.

It seems to me that you're not listening to my advice. That being the case I'm not really interested in offering you more advice.

Dear Archdruid John,

My condolences on the passing of the beloved Sara.

I am interested to know your thoughts on magical or magic oriented churches. Some examples are Dion Fortune's Guild of the Master Jesus and on the other end of the spectrum there is Aleister Crowley's OTO/ Ecclesia Gnostic Catholica.

I am thinking of harmonizing and setting the rituals and lessons for Magical Church or association. Does the Christian deity respond particularly well to this endeavor?

Thank you
Blessed Be

There are quite a few magically oriented Christian churches in existence right now; look up the Independent Sacramental Movement sometime. (John Plummer's book The Many Paths of the Independent Sacramental Movement is a first-rate introduction to this scene.)

The Christian god seems to be entirely comfortable with such things. I've attended services at several such churches and they had a clear, bright, gentle energy worlds away from the muddy air of general decay you find in so many mainstream churches or the edgy, hysterical, jarring mood you get in charismatic churches of various kinds. If that path calls you, I'd encourage you to pursue it.

I'd like to know if you think I'm on the right track with a line of thinking that suggests that one of the weirder and more dramatic shifts in politics right now, the rapid change where support for the gay community has started becoming a right-wing issue instead of a left wing one, is a result of a large scale accidental magical working using "rainbow crosswalks" as an unintentional symbol.

A huge number of people in the gay community despise, with a passion, the "rainbow crosswalks". Several gay men have told me that since it's a symbol of the gay community, a lot of gay people find it distasteful because it's meant to be walked over; and the phrase, "walking over something" means something quite negative. Apparently, a very large number of gay people will flat out refuse to walk on these, stepping aside to walk around the crosswalks.

So too will a lot of conservatives I know, including myself. Many of us aren't doing it out of any animosity towards gay people, but rather out of animosity towards a political ideology that has taken shape and claims to act in their name. Many more, including myself, are doing it out of distaste for the transgender push; which is apparently a major issues in the gay community these days. A lot of them seem to be worried they'd have become trans; and that they'd have screwed up their lives.

So now, many conservatives and gay people are taking steps to avoid walking over a symbol of the gay community, with a great many conservatives doing it to avoid supporting a cause a large portion of the gay community finds horrific; while a great many liberals are enthusiastically walking over the symbol of the gay community, with some going out of their way to do it.

The end result is that there's a significant shift in consciousness as a result of this unintentional magical working, with the left increasingly coming to "walk over" the gay community; while the right is increasingly walking in solidarity with them; an outcome that no doubt would horrify many of the people engaged in this accidental working on both the left and the right.

Does this seem plausible to you?

It seems entirely plausible to me. It's not impossible, given the growing hostility on the part of the left toward the gay and lesbian community, that the rainbow crosswalk business was a deliberate piece of magic intended to make gays and lesbians more willing to be walked on.

For what it's worth, I won't walk on a rainbow crosswalk either, out of simple respect for the gay and lesbian community; I don't think they, or a symbol that's deeply meaningful to many of them, deserve to be trampled.

Looking from the outside, it seems part of the issue is that a small group have set up the crosswalks because they came up with this goal for themselves. Then they say, "Look, all you people whose sexuality makes you an activist community together, at what's been done for you! It's time for you to be grateful to us now."

The attempt is to replace a simple street safety marker, with Political Action Changes That You Should Thank Us For Using To Celebrate You All!

As one still learning to shut up when appropriate, rather than providing excessive unsolicited advice about seemingly harmless information, I can only imagine the burden of resentment on one side and perhaps self-inflicted karma on the other.

Christopher from California

I have yet to see one of these rainbow crosswalks. If I did come upon one, I'd avoid it.

You've said that occult practices help keep people lucid and calm right up until the end of their lives, and cited Sara as an example of this. I'm watching my grandfather die, slowly, with severe dementia, and am interested in anything which will help me avoid that fate. It runs in my family, so I may not be able to do so, but it sounds like my occult practices could help here.

I do daily prayer, a weekly candle working (to a different planet each time), a daily practice of the LBRP, R+C, and MP, a daily meditation, and a bit of divination (I'm learning geomancy as a daily practice and putting a great deal of study into astrology). Are there other practices you'd advice adding adding for my goal to remain lucid for the remainder of my life, no matter what sort of challenges I end up facing?

Daily meditation is the keynote here. Sara practiced discursive meditation every morning starting in the mid-1980s and continuing until well into her final illness; it was one of the foundations of her spiritual life. It gave her a huge amount of help in dealing with her childhood, and also helped her develop the clarity that made her last days so much easier for both of us.

It's also helpful to practice deep breathing, relaxation, and light to moderate exercise. That improves blood flow to the brain, which can be an issue in old age.

Been doing a comparison between ideas of various people including some of the theosophists as well as others including Bo Yin Ra and Paul Brunton - fascinating stuff. Anyway, I came across this from Brunton's notebooks:

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Civilizations do not progress; they grow, but they crumble by their own weight, or, rather, overweight.

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If anything ever impressed me with the truth of civilization's transformatory nature it was my reading of the Frenchman Volney's book The Ruins of Empires, together with my visit to the remains of two cities. One, Anuradhapura in Ceylon, sixteen miles long and sixteen miles wide stretching in the sunshine with thousands of golden and silver pillars, was eaten up by jungle growth or dissolved into dust! The other, Angkor in Cambodia, displayed huge temples rising out of the thick clogging undergrowth and broken, weather-beaten statues of the Buddhas tangled with, or root-bound in, gnarled wrinkled trees.

Doing a search found: 'The Ruins or Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires:: And the Law of Nature' - Volney, C. F.

Since western 'empire' seems to be a turd on the cusp of being flushed (the cistern handle has been pulled but we await the final torrent of water for our journey to the septic tank of history), was wondering if you or anyone reckons Volney's book is worth a read?

Looking at Bo Yin Ra's 'The Book on Life Beyond' I was fascinated to read that he seemed to think reincarnation only happened in very exceptional circumstances. The book gave some good things to chew on but in the end, I could not decide if he had written it somewhat tongue in cheek as a laxative for 'neo-theosophy' [whatever that might be].

The idea that a single human lifetime might be enough to learn how to be human is a puzzle to me, but maybe I'm a slow learner.

1) Volney's book is readily available for free download in English translation:

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1397

It's worth a read, though very much a product of its times.

2) I think he's wrong.

Thank you for that link, JMG.
If there are more gems like:
"Rise, mortal, and extricate thy senses from the dust in which thou movest."
...then I shall enjoy it.

"2) I think he's wrong."
It certainly isn't a metaphor I've come across before.
Do you know if that idea has any other provenance?

I've often wondered about pen names but given their actual names I can see some sense in doing so! ;)
Joseph Anton Schneiderfranken - Bo Yin Ra
Mieczyslaw Demetriusz Sudowski - Mouni Sadhu

It's not one I've come across, either. Most traditions either affirm reincarnation or reject it. As for the names -- well, yes, that does make sense!

Paul Brunton's notebooks has become favorite reading of mine as of late. His section on reincarnation seems especially sane and on-point.

Morning JMG.

With a difficult future stacking up all around us I was wondering if you have ever addressed PTSD, or more to the point an inoculation against it. I see a lot of mild mannered folks such as myself having to make hard decisions the like of which we have not even confronted in our worst nightmares. I hope that I am wrong.

Jordan Peterson has described PTSD as the reaction of a naive person confronted with a profound level of evil especially one's own evil. He presents it as the flaw of a person who has gone through life thinking everyone is basically good and that it is society forcing people to do awful things which is straight Rousseau. Effectively this makes PTSD merely a crippling form of cognitive dissonance.

If we believe that definition, which I struggle to, then the innoculation is admitting the evil in the world but mainly in ourselves. It's admitting that statistically I would have been a good German should I have been around in the 1930s. I have never been in a situation to know my dark side because I have lead an easy life where making the right choice carried light repercussions.

That's the JBP version. What about the more mundane old fashioned shell shock?

This is probably asking a lot as anyone with a surefire fix for PTSD would have a line out the door and around the block but I thought I would throw it out there.

Thanks!

It's not something I've worked with, but that's partly because it's not something to which I'm especially susceptible.

Not the OP. I think about PTSD as what happens when we experience something as too much, too fast and with not enough support. Yes, this invites the overuse of the term and can encourage victimhood when we aren't honest about our role in what we experienced. Having said that, it also recognizes that we can rest in all kinds of resources, for me most especially spiritual resources that give me a bigger picture of what's happening in the world and my place in it.

If it's a helpful datapoint, I think JBP might have one element of it, but since I have dealt with PTSD I think his take is very incomplete. It might account for some subset of ptsd but certainly not the whole.

My own was nothing to do with anything evil-- it was a freak accident. Nobody's fault, completely understandable how it happened, and there wasn't any kind of *intent* in it, just dumb bad luck. Still resulted in years of flashbacks, anxiety, nightmares, etc.

I think perhaps what JBP is missing is that part of the reason you remember bad things so very very clearly, is that you've got built-in heavy-duty memory imprinting mediated by emotion and stress hormones. The more emotional, the more negatively consequential an event is, the more motivated your biology is to make sure you remember it in 3-D technicolor high-def slo-mo detail... so that if anything even remotely like it ever comes up again, you might possibly be able to get away, or stop it happening. It's millions of years of evolution going: "That went badly, that could've killed you, make sure you remember and don't let it happen again!"

This is, naturally, quite unpleasant. The circuitry involved can go a little haywire, particularly if up to that point one has lived a fairly comfortable and predictable life, where that sort of thing only happens to Other People. That sort of existence is really abnormal for humans, historically. Now you have to adjust your perspective. This sort of thing happens to quite a lot of people actually-- you've seen those little blurbs in the news. What happened to the survivors? For every terrible workplace accident, every crash-kills-three-injures-one... there were witnesses, people who tried to help and failed, who watched helplessly, who miraculously survived when nobody else did. They probably have PTSD. It'll fade over time, but like a lot of things it leaves a mark.

If I had to come up with a theory on the spot, for why some people get through it, and others seem crippled by it, I think it has a lot to do with acceptance or rejection of mental pain. Your brain/psyche/whatever *needs* to face the thing, analyze it, and learn from it, but it hurts a lot. People who try to avoid that are, I expect, those who get stuck in it.

OP here. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

JBP, I think, would agree with your assessment. He points out that those who refuse to engage with the biological side of their trauma can turn it into a permanent disability. There definitely seems to be a virtue in taking your body's hint and analyzing the replay that keeps getting forced on you so that you can tell your body that the lesson has been learned and move on.

In that way it more resembles a phobia which can be resolved by confrontation. Yet another expansion of our ability to control our visceral reactions with concentrated thought.

A book you might consider checking out is On Killing by Dave Grossman. It has some issues (for example, it leans heavily on SLA Marshall's research, which has been found to be largely made up), but it explores a lot of territory around PTSD.

It suggests that the two most important things are to 1) think through ahead of time the things you might have to do or be subjected to, and make sure that they fit with your moral framework, and 2) to talk about potentially traumatic events as soon as possible with other folks who were there - ideally, immediately after, you talk through what happened with the people who went through it with you.

If you'd prefer a more literary take within the older more "shell shock" way of seeing things, Regeneration is a novel about Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen's experiences being treated for shell shock, and taking a very different view on war and its experience is Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger.

One further thought that you might find interesting to look into is that apparently there has been some promising early research into treating PTSD with MDMA-assisted therapy.

Hope these help,
Jeff

Something worth pointing out: I don't know a single person with a CIB that has read On Killing and liked it.

Fair enough! I read it before I joined and never earned a CIB, so I'd be inclined to defer to them.

Thanks for the reply.

I will absolutely check out those books. They sound like some excellent light beach reading!

And I have heard about MDMA as a treatments but always reserve some skepticism because it sounds along the same lines as "pot literally cures everything". I would like to think, perhaps overly optimistically, that anything hallucinogens can do meditation can do better albeit slower and with considerable dedication

PTSD is an interesting one. I haven't read Peterson's work and can only speak for myself but, for me, PTSD is not at all related to my own evil but to the evils that happened to me as a child. When bad things happen to a young child over and over again, it kind of rewires your brain and puts you into constant vigilance/panic mode. It's exhausting. Breaking free from that is seriously difficult and whilst it can be done to some extent, the work needed to get there is onerous and unceasing. I started serious work in my mid-teens and am just now starting to feel like I'm getting there in my early 60s.

The thing is, that PTSD has in a way helped because by experiencing the depths of it, I now know I'd already seen some of the worst aspects of humanity by the time I started junior school. Little shocks me these days and I rarely panic, but go into automatic 'deal with it' mode, sometimes while others around me aren't coping at all. As for my dark side, I've already seen that too and, yes, it was nasty but I managed and didn't do anything I regret.

It's complicated, OP. PTSD has so many causes that it's hard to generalise and even harder to think about how one might fix it. Creating a life where you feel you have a comfortable level of control is important and helps to calm the memories of past chaos. For me, it was that and a mix of 'regular' meditation, discursive meditation, journaling, good food and sleep, physical outdoor work, inner child work and good, old fashioned pig-headed stubbornness. I'd go as far as to say that the pig-headed stubbornness was vitally important in getting me through the time before I learned to meditate and, whilst you can take stubbornness too far, it can be a useful trait in times of need.

Speaking as somebody who seems to have successfully treated their own PTSD:

1) Seeing yourself as somebody who has to make hard decisions is widely regarded as a hard guarantee of poor decision making and future mental illness. The guidelines for SFAS explicitly regard it as a major red flag.

2) Jordan Peterson's model is deeply incomplete. The other poster has addressed this well. Cognitive dissonance doesn't address any of the symptoms of PTSD.

3) Recognizing that you are untested and have at least some capacity for depravity is a good sign of your maturity. A desire to act properly is more valuable than a desire to "be good", also important is to realize that morality has a certain measure of skill to it, and can be improved over time.

4) Shell shock is actually several things. PTSD was diagnosed under that label, but there are also a similar cluster of symptoms that unfold from disruption of the enteric nervous system or low level traumatic brain injury. Both are common from spending time around explosions.

5) On shell shock, this is one of the cases were the East Asian stigma against mental illness is actually somewhat helpful. As per JSDF doctrine, PTSD is a neurological issue, not a mental one. As I understand it, acupuncture and shiatsu have proven effective. Surprisingly good results have also come from old Shinto and Buddhist purification rites.

6) In a western context; all of the SAS operators I know all practice discursive meditation in the Anglican tradition and are convinced that it is the best bet for preventing or treating PTSD. This accords with my own experience, though I learned it in the context of the Druid tradition, as per our hosts Druidry Handbook.

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OP here.

On your first point... I think the biggest fear that I have is that my easy life has in no way prepared me for a severe crisis. To be blunt, what keeps me up at night is that in a crisis I crack and fail the people who need me. I have a family and nothing else has impressed upon me my vulnerability like knowing they depend utterly on me. There is also the possibility that I weather the crisis but end up pushing any damage done onto my family. Hence the reason for the question.

So I say hard choices because to-date all I've made are easy ones. I have goals and I would very much like to pursue them. If we avoid crisis altogether that would be my overwhelming first choice. I made it through covid with my friends and family intact, a job that has gone from strength to strength regardless of the nonsense, and I didn't end up in jail for not wearing a mask though there were absolutely spit-flecked threats to do so. I have been very blessed. I am not naive enough to think there is anything permanent in any of this which is why I would like to capitalize on it should the world hold together. But I also don't want to get caught flat footed when reality asserts itself.

Okay, I've got you now. Please forgive me for being so heavy handed. I badly misunderstood the tone of the conversation.

As far as breaking goes, the people who are the biggest risk are the ones who think they'll never do so. Most people can go further still when acting in defense of loved ones. You're showing signs of maturity that make me think you can go further than average.

In my experience, even without a family, the fear of failing the people who need you never really goes away. For me, training, experience, or government issued gold stars saying that I'm extra special never really alleviated those fears. Eventually you get used to it and learn how to turn your mind towards more constructive pursuits. The stoic advice to focus on what you can control hasn't failed yet.

The fear of pushing your own damage onto others is a common one. Distancing oneself from prior relationships is a common pattern of behavior with PTSD if not a recognized symptom. There is at least one psychiatrist who has theorized the former is the cause of the later. In every case known to me, the family would rather have the traumatized individual sustain the relationship rather than dissociate. Though I will admit that it may require everybody to adjust to a new normal that isn't the same as the old one.

>I have been very blessed. I am not naive enough to think there is anything permanent in any of this.
More evidence of maturity, and another reason to think that you will be fine.

As far as actual preparations go, our host's advice to collapse now and avoid the rush is very sound. Having some kind of spiritual or religious life is probably the single most valuable thing as a system under pressure will give out at the weakest point. For most people, this is either the mind or spirit. After that, skills, relationships, and physical fitness are the next things to cultivate. The survival bunker loaded to the brim with goods and supplies is, in my mind, one of the classic mistakes people make in a dying society.

In any case, I wish you luck in your preparations.

My late beloved had substantial PTSD from extremely evil physical violence and abuse done to her throughout her childhood by her parents, and then furthermore in corrupt school, church, and medical institutions. She was entirely innocent of any wrongdoing that could have led to or justified this in any way at all in this lifetime. I had milder PTSD from childhood experiences that were bad, but generally not as extreme as what she went through.

We worked with wise, expert counselors on the issue. We also both did a lot of our own reading on the subject for several years.

Everything we ever found about PTSD describes it as the nervous system's inability to cope with an extreme shock. It happens when the shock is beyond the nervous system's physical capacity to immediately adjust to destructive changes one is forced to experience.

Essentially, consciousness checks out for a moment, when the nervous system can't physically sustain awareness. Then the person has a mental and emotional gap. Consciously and subconsciously, they don't fully realize that the danger has passed and they have already survived. Because of this gap, the person continues to fight against or flee the apparently eternal threat, whenever it seems to come back around.

The overall sensitivity of the nervous system, and whether a person is already run down, have a lot to do with why the same experience can lead to PTSD in one person but not another standing beside them.

The two mainstream treatments are to discuss what happened in a safe setting, with a trained counselor, and to use pharmaceuticals to take the edge off the extreme emotions and intrusive reliving of the trauma's agony.

The leading alternative treatment is various bodywork methods to release or neutralize physically stored emotional imbalances. Acupuncture, Reich's methods, and Rolfing are among the ways said to release or rebalance physically stuck emotional energy. Also see today's discussion of tapping. EMDR is among the ways said to scramble the pathways of the physically stuck emotional energy, so it doesn't keep coming back.

I have never seen any other source on PTSD that relates in any way to what you described as Jordan Peterson's view. His doctorate is in clinical psychology, but his work specialty seems to be in areas other than PTSD.

I've not studied his views, but I have seen that his supporters and detractors would agree he's a controversy magnet for holding many unorthodox opinions on a wide range of topics in psychology, sociology, religion, and ethics.

Last month Dr. Peterson lost an appeal for a disciplinary process by his local psychology board, for making public statements about psychology outside what is supported by his professional expertise. He's at risk of losing his license if his mandatory training about professional communication isn't completed successfully. He has said the demand he have this coaching isn't needed or appropriate. I don't know if PTSD is a specific topic at issue.

Asking "is something about the evil I denounce outside me, also present inside me in some way?" can be a meaningful spiritual growth tool, but I've never seen anyone else suggest it as an approach to PTSD.

Christopher from California

Pretty sure animals can get PTSD too although maybe we have more complicated things at play at the end of the day unless you've mentally navigated a situation before some things are just really scary experiences. I guess that could mean it challenges a lot of your previous beliefs and that has to be worked through while healing.

I found the reliving the PTSD experience in a safe space gradually releases the attached feelings but it takes time. But yeah, sometimes things happen that are just scary, we're designed to be influenced by our experiences and feelings, PTSD is gonna happen on earth.

Years ago, I read an article about how therapists were helping PTSD sufferers by having them 're-write' their memories. People with PTSD had to tell about the event (or events) that caused (or perhaps was a trigger) for their PTSD episode, but they had to tell it without emotion (not just in tone, but in vocabulary choice). They didn't retell it once, but over and over (for weeks or months, if needed). In time, people could recall the memories without the same reactions. (I vaguely remember brain scans with different areas lit up in different colors, but I do not remember the details.)

When my husband's father died, I tried a version of the same idea. At every holiday (when we tended to notice his absence the most), I made everyone tell a happy story about my father-in-law. The first year was hard; we cried as much as we laughed. But every holiday got a little easier and now, many years later, there is usually a moment of quiet but no tears. And lots of happy stories.

JMG, somewhere along the way, described an occult practice of recounting your day before going to sleep, in reverse order, (IIRC) without emotion. I do it daily and have found myself letting go of stresses more easily than in the past. I don't have PTSD, but perhaps it would help you with smaller stressors.

Thanks for a new Magic Monday!

To share, for those who wonder what AS, OBOD or EESS mean, a list of abbreviations used on Ecosophia.

To ask, I noticed the abbreviation LSRP above. The LxRP stands for Lesser xxx Ritual of the Pentagram, but I've been unable to find the S. What does LSRP stand for?

Lesser Summoning Ritual of the Pentagram, an alternative name for the Lesser Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram.

Thanks! By the way, I was enjoying your weekly book reviews. The last one was for Atlantis: Ancient Legacy Hidden Prophecy. What are your plans for those?

I'll be picking that up again next week.

A quick question, perhaps more for the commentariat than you, JMG. I've been trying to find a tarot video posted on this journal towards the start of last year. The reading was done on New Year's Eve for the next year in the US, and it was also a wonderful exegesis on the spread he used -- the Celtic Cross.

The reading was done by an elderly man who had a pronounced German accent. In Chicago, I think. There was some connection to an anthroposophical lodge or Rudolph Steiner.

I'd love to watch it again, but even more to find a similar reading for 2024. Anyone have the link or more info? Thanks!

*OHC*

There I can't help you. Anyone else?

iirc, that reading was done by Stephan Hoeller of the Ecclesia Gnostica.

Milkyway

Yes! I've found it now, and hope there's a new one for 2024. Thank you Milkyway.

For people who do videos, the 2024 reading is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa_KXmm4DNo

John Michael my prayers continue for you and Sara.

Request for info from JMG and others that have experience with planetary magic:

I have been using Secrets of Planetary Magic by Christopher Warnock. The talisman designs in the book show different symbols in the talisman pictures for each planet.

You can get an idea by looking at this talisman in the British Museum:
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/H_2011-8030-1

You'll want to go to the lower right and change the image to the other side of the coin from the table of numbers. There you can see an example of various symbols.

I'm in the process of trying to go to the source(s), in this case Henry Agrippa's 4th book of Occult Philosophy.

Link is to a page with some symbolism.

https://archive.org/details/bib_fict_4103360/page/36/mode/2up

So far, I realize that there are symbols for good and also evil angels associated with the planets.

I need to dive in and figure out the relationship between the planetary symbol, the star and heads symbols and the joining lines.

Q - I'm not sure the Agrippa's symbols are the source for the symbols in Warnock's book, especially those symbols only consisting of lines and circles (see British Museum image for an example, lower left symbol). Is there a connection?

Q - I intend to dive deeper in Agrippa's work and others but can anyone provide suggestions for further study on the meaning of the symbols, especially those I mentioned above with lines and circles that are used in the Warnock talismans?

Would be good to know what the symbols mean if I invest energy and attention to the talismans.

Thank you

1) You'd have to ask Chris about that.

2) That can be a real challenge. In many cases talismanic symbols like these were revealed by angels or spirits, or found in visionary states, and their meanings are not known. All we know is that they work.

I know "racism" has become nothing more than a term for "anything the elite doesn't like", but I think it's managed to reach a new level of absurdity. I've been watching the news debacle coming out of Trump saying that the indictments against him are helping him with black voters, because they see the legal discrimination against him and they've seen it in their own communities and so know what harms it can do, and several of the responses have been truly bizarre, with quite a few of them being remarkably racist in the strict sense of the word.

Jasmine Harris, who serves as the "Black media director for the Biden-Harris reelection campaign", is now on record saying that Donald Trump has proved he's racist by talking to black people during Black History Month. I'm also remembering the issue it seems some people are having where their family is freaking out because they are white and dating a black person, and the trend towards giving preferential treatment to people based on race in the name of fighting "racism", and what's striking to me is that if current trends continue, within a few years "racism" is going to mean "supporting racial equality", if it doesn't already.

Plenty of people on the right seem to have noticed this, and plenty of us are baffled by it; especially those of us such as myself who have come from the left because of this sort of absurdity. However, what I cannot understand is how people could end up changing positions so radically, without ever seeming to notice they are doing this.

Is there any occult explanation for why so many people are turning into neo-segregationists but seem to be unable to notice? The whole thing seems bizarre and more than a little creepy to me...

It is indeed bizarre, and more than a little creepy, but there's a straightforward explanation for it in occult lore. There's a maxim that goes, "What you contemplate, you imitate." This works whether you love something or hate it or are indifferent to it, btw: if you spend your time focusing your attention on something, you gradually and often unconsciously become more like it.

Over the last few decades the American left has become absolutely obsessed with the Nazis. They can hardly open their mouths without talking about Nazi this and Hitler that and so on down a very narrow list of themes, all of which focus on a particular set of notions about German National Socialism. They're doing it because they don't want to face the huge cognitive dissonance between their self-image as liberated rebels and their actual position as defenders and beneficiaries of a corrupt and abusive system; fixating on someone else's misdeeds is always a popular way to avoid noticing your own. It's a disastrous mistake on their part, though, because what you contemplate, you imitate, and so bit by bit they're turning into Nazis.

Their current state of unawareness is typical of people who contemplate something they hate. In the years ahead, more and more people will do what you've done and leave the left because of the cognitive dissonance, but there will be those who stay with it. They're the ones who will start having sudden conversion experiences, the kind of thing Conway and Siegelman wrote about many years ago in their book Snapping; they'll blink, shake themselves, get glassy smiles and thousand-mile stares, and become full-blown, race-baiting, Jew-hating, Hitler-worshiping Nazis. My guess is that this will start in a big way about the time that a majority of African-American voters abandon the Democratic Party.

Edited (typo) 2024-02-26 15:57 (UTC)

a) I suppose you could do this intentionally as well, by, for example, setting aside time each day to contemplate virtues, and then watch as you become more virtuous. This could be a very good technique for self-improvement, hmm.

b) I think we might get to see that this November then. As bad as things are now, I don't think having a boatload of actual Nazis around will make things any better....

1) Yes, and this used to be a very common practice. The Imitation of Christ, one of the classics of Christian mysticism, pursues this exact approach; there is also the fine old practice of setting yourself a virtue a week and spending time contemplating it and then trying your best to behave in accordance with it. That was a very common exercise among children and teens in the 18th and 19th centuries.

2) I think it will improve things mildly, since it will complete the process whereby the current woke ideology is negating itself, and very few people outside of the post-woke Nazis will be willing to listen.

1) Do you know if the loss of such practices is a cause or a symptom of the decline of virtues in the modern West? It seems likely to be related.

2) I suppose things might be different for you in the US, but here in Canada I think the new Nazis will almost certainly end up in power at least in the short term; the Woke are still firmly in control of the government, large companies, and hold a substantial sway among a lot of people I would have expected not to go down this road....

(I am making plans to leave; and probably will be out by the end of this year, but I'm still finding it very, very hard to face what the most likely outcome for my home is going to be)

1) It's both a symptom of decline and a cause of further decline. These things form feedback loops.

2) Sure, and then they'll destroy themselves, because that's what Nazis do. Once they fully embrace their inner Schicklgruber, they'll head straight for self-destruction by the most expedient possible route. It has occurred to me that the doctor-assisted suicide arrangement may be so popular among the elite classes in Canada because they're prepping themselves subconsciously for mass self-extermination.

Oh dear gods, something else has just occurred to me: given that one of the hallmarks of the Nazi regime was its intimate ties to a septic form of occultism, this makes perfect sense of why so many on the left have made the leap into demonolatry. It's another form of them turning into the Nazis! Things could get extremely messy in the years ahead then as more and more of them make that leap....

So many of them have already taken up demonolatry that I think that most of them will simply finish the process of putting themselves on the menu at a demonic buffet.

Dear John Michael,
reading through Dion Fortune Mystical Cabalah, I noticed again that she mentions a description of the Paths as psychological states, and this approach as being useful in practice. She even mentions, I think, that she will deal about it in a separate book. Yet, I so far failed to find the right pointer, even in your Path of Wisdom bibliography. If you had pointers, I'd be very grateful.

Yours under the starlit skies
Seb

She never got around to writing that book, I'm sorry to say. It's unfortunate, since she had the psychological background (as a trained lay Freudian therapist) to do it well.

What's your opinion on William Walker Atkinson's arcane teachings and formulas?

A classic text of golden age American occultism. You could do considerably worse.

It should be approached like Dionn Fortune's Cosmic Doctrine- train the mind not inform it?

Of course! Unlike the Cos.Doc., though, it has instructional sections, and those are worth practicing exactly as written.

I was very impressed by Atkinson's Mind Power: The Secret of Mental Magic (1912), which is his final revision of several earlier books by him. One could do a lot worse than learn from this book.

At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.

May new mother Molly recover quickly and completely from her recent stroke, and may newborn Lela and husband Austin be comforted and strengthened through this difficult time.

May John Michael Greer's wife Sara Greer, who passed away on February 20th, be blessed and soothed as she moves into the next stage of her spirit's journey. And may John Michael Greer be blessed and lent strength in this most difficult time.

May Timmy W. have the guidance, support, and strength he needs to overcome his PTSD, and may his mother, Rachel M., have the energy and wisdom to support him through it.

May Erika's partner James remain cancer free, and make a full return to robust health.

Tyler A's wife Monika's pregnancy is high risk; may Mother and child be blessed with good health and a smooth delivery.

May the surgery for Yuccaglauca's mother Monica's malignant mass be safe, successful, and conclusive of the matter.

May Frank Rudolf Hartman of Altadena California (picture), who is receiving chemotherapy, be completely cured of the lymphoma that is afflicting him, and may he return to full health.

May Audrey's nephew Jon, who is now in a wheelchair due to ALS, have peace and comfort during this difficult time, and be healed of his condition to the greatest degree possible.

May Just Another Green Rage Monster's father, who is dealing with Stage 4 Lymphoma, and mother, who is primary caregiver, be blessed, protected and healed.

May Kyle's friend Amanda, who though in her early thirties is undergoing various difficult treatments for brain cancer, make a full recovery; and may her body and spirit heal with grace.

Lp9's hometown, East Palestine, Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people, animals and all living beings in and around East Palestine, and to improve the natural environment there to the benefit of all.

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Thank you for this as always.

Many thanks, merci, for your devotion to this work.

Sapienter Si Sincere

Hi JMG,

When doing the Lesser Ritual of Opening and Closing, do you light the black and white candles? I've been lighting them for the ritual and extinguishing them as I do the Lesser Middle Pillar. That seems to make the most sense, and also saves on candles!

Jon
tangerine tangential cactus

You can certainly do that. I tended to light the candles just before the opening and snuff them at the closing, but there's plenty of room for variation.

Dear JMG,

Thank you for answering our questions during this difficult period for you, and please accept my continued best wishes and prayers.

I'd like to ask about an experience I had a couple weeks ago while practicing the meditation technique Evelyn Underhill describes in her book Practical Mysticism.

After several months of working to focus the attention, I started being able to clear away 'big' thoughts and then 'small' thoughts until I was able to simply look at myself, as Underhill describes. I suddenly felt my entire body tingling, a sense of being cold and hot at the same time, almost wanting to go into tears, a slight sense of sexual arousal (but which wasn't really the same thing as that), and a kind of strange widening or clearing that is hard to describe. This lasted for about five minutes or so and I could feel myself wanting to shut it down because it felt quite strong.

That night it was hard to sleep, and I had tachycardia, palpitations, and an irregular pulse, which was a little alarming.

I was able to get into the same state right away during meditation the next day, but because I'm worried about these cardio symptoms, I've been intentionally lessening my meditation practices. These experiences ebbed off after a day or two and haven't occurred since.

I have doctor's appointment this week to ask about the tachycardia and the irregular heartbeat (neither of which are noticeable anymore).

The experience didn't have the character of afterwards permanently affecting my consciousness in the way some of William James' examples describe, or causing a change in personality. Indeed, in the days afterward there was ego inflation, which I kept an eye on.

I went searching through past Magic Mondays, and found a question from someone else who seemed to have a similar experience. That commenter talked about feeling like being filled by lightning, which was a great way to put what I had experienced. Here's the thread in question: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/179202.html?thread=29076994#cmt29076994

You replied that it could have been a low-level kundalini awakening. I remember your past comments that kundalini awakenings can be dangerous, but I don't practice kundalini yoga, so I don't know if what I experienced was something different? It may be that what I experienced was what was intended to happen as part of Underhill's technique, but I'm nervous about the potential dangers.

If my doctor finds no cardiovascular issues, is it a matter of following your advice in the comment above, and continuing to meditate without grasping for that type of experience?

I've also been doing the Inner Grail working from the DMH about once or twice a week for about a year and a half now, in case that is relevant.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Yes, that was a classic low-level kundalini experience. You're wise to turn down the volume on the meditation practices for a little while, so your body has a chance to adjust to the energy flow. In a while, once the effects have entirely passed off, you can resume your practices -- yes, without grasping for that experience, or any other. You may well find that certain aspects of your practices have become much more potent and effective as a result of this practice.

Not the OP. I had a comparable experience, but in my case the excess energy spilled over into people close to me (partner, children). That was a rather unsettling experience for everybody involved.

Is there any way to avoid this? Or any way to protect other people from such an excess of energy?

Thanks.

It really depends on the details. For some people, cold showers help, by taking away the excess etheric energy.

Good morning John.

At the beginning of this year I have decided to take up a new divination method, in this case the I Ching. I need to get into the head space of some people I am writing about who also used the I Ching for their spiritual and creative work. Plus I want to get another system under my built as I work up towards eight (I'd say dreams, bibliomancy, tarot, the Sacred Geometry Oracle, and a smattering of Lenormand are the other ones I've learned so far --I'll want to go back to Lenormand more deeply in time.)

While I am learning it, I am still using the Sacred Geometry Oracle if I have a question I need a definitive answer to, because I have come to trust it's reliable advice. For that I use the three card method laid out in the Way of the Golden Section.

While learning such a complex system as the I Ching however, I have been doing a coin toss method, and it seems like it is best to do just one hexagram for my daily reading. It seems to be working fine, but I know you suggest drawing three of whatever system a person chooses to work with while doing the GSF work. While doing the I Ching however, when I get changing lines from the coin tosses, I will also quite often have a second hexagram to look at and interpret, and then the different lines that changed pointing too within the second hexagram. I did cast three hexagrams, but with all the changing lines etc, I felt it was too much to think about, and overwhelming, so I am going for a single hexagram with whatever it changes into and those lines to look at for daily readings - this provides a considerable amount of info already.

Do you have any thoughts about this modification to my divination practice? I do feel pretty comfortable with three card divination, as I used that as a basic past, present, future spread with Tarot for years before I started the GSF work.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Justin Patrick Moore

Okay, the three-card rule is purely for divination decks. The I Ching has its own way of doing things, which is what you've been doing. While you're working with the I Ching, follow its traditional method -- just as you don't cast three daily horoscopes each morning!

Fair enough! Thanks... I feel better going forward.

In the past I cut corners in my work, or tried things my own way. These days I'm trying my best to follow your suggestion of doing the work in the occult books I train with exactly as it is written, hence the question.

I can imagine casting three daily horoscopes in a morning might get a bit on the OCD side of things!

Justin

Two I Ching resources I've found very helpful are Bradford Hatcher's big books, and http://wengu.tartarie.com/wg/wengu.php?l=Yijing (No HTTPS security. Ignore the completely inane comments section.) Both explain the original Chinese characters word by word, with them clickable on the Tartarie site to look up the components of complex ideograms.

https://www.yijing.nl/index.html has some history about the earlier meanings of the hexagrams, and idiosyncratic desriptions of what they might mean.

https://psychicscience.org/ching3 can generate a reading with either coin or yarrow stalk probabilities, with a choice of translations.

Mocha Amphibious Moose

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