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Charlie Obert ([personal profile] charlieobert) wrote in [personal profile] ecosophia 2024-02-17 02:15 pm (UTC)

First of all, I want to say that I appreciate this dialog we're having. I appreciate your sincerity and your integrity. I am also glad for the chance to clearly think through and review this whole area of health care.

You talk about health care being corrupt since covid, and you're right. I maintain that the same patterns of corruption are there in other areas of health care, and have been for a long time.

I talk about cancer since I have first-hand experience there. I see the following patterns:

- mis-diagnosis and over-diagnosis.

- strongly and coercively pushing, and even mandating, treatments that are patented, expensive, toxic and highly debilitating. Over-treating.

- dismissing, ignoring, or attacking, ridiculing and attempting to ban, other possible treatments that show great promise, and are available and affordable.

- using scare stories and shaming for anyone who dares question the standard protocol.

That is point-for-point exactly the same pattern we see with covid. And, it has been in place for decades.

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Yes, there is the possibility of using the regular medical system just for diagnosis. In my experience, to do that takes a lot of awareness and research, and a good amount of planning, inner strength and integrity, to resist the heavy coercion you are likely to get to accept "the doctor's orders" - and there is a reason they use the word Order.

For what it's worth, I've had long conversations on this topic with my nurse-daughter, and she completely agrees with me about how hard it is to avoid being coerced into treatment. Apparently there's a label they put on your chart if you dare question a doctor's orders - I forget the exact name but it means something like, Uncooperative, or Troublemaker. C'est Moi.

When I said that you have to weigh the cost of seeing a doctor, you asked if I was joking. No, I am not, and I hope this post helps to clarify why.

--Lord Elrondor LionFart

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