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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-10-03 03:22 pm

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 113

dear plexiglassWe are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Pierre Kory series

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Pierre Kory's multi-part series "Reports From The Front Lines Of The Vaccine Catastrophe" is really informative.

An example from part 4 -

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/reports-from-the-front-lines-of-the-0be

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From a colleague (some details were omitted to protect their identity):

"One of the docs I know died on his way in to clinic. He had been boosted at urging of colleagues, though had a bad time w original injections. Had MI mid last yr, out for months. Came back, had what he considered long Covid sx, not vax injury. Refused to believe in it. In and out on leave and finally back on full schedule, but could not shake “it” with symptoms still present. Then came the nudge to get boosted. Sent him spiraling again. Out for awhile again. Coming back to clinic and died on his way in.. autopsy done. And you can guess what was found from heart tissue then."

Later, my colleague had this to say about the above case:

"Many of his former residents and fellows were so stunned at his death they had no words. One fell back against the wall. It takes time to process. I told this one that he’d just gotten boosted when it really came crashing down …just to let him think about. I want people to think and stop this cognitive disconnect and dissonance."

Studies showing natural immunity vs mRNA induced immunity?

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Should be easy for someone well informed: What studies have examined statistically significant numbers of people, with sound methodology, to compare natural immunity from having had the virus and then recovered, vs. mRNA induced spike production? Specifically, rates of infection and severity of illness once infected?

And, why is it that for any other illness natural immunity from having had the illness and recovered is widely considered totally irrelevant and worthless and not worth discussing, compared to artificially induced conditioning of the immune response?

from Christopher in California

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
My supervisor at work is usually pretty gung ho about physical work even though he's pushing 70, but shot number 5 really slowed him down. Another covid promotion might be in my not too distant future which is sad because I like the guy even though he can be a real mast pole sometimes. I've been trying to learn what he does as much as I can before he gets a case of the suddenlys.

It makes one wonder about all the boomers out there who held on to their careers with a death grip without training their replacements, and the consequences of the rest of us having to overcoming that knowledge gap once the Flavor Aid fully kicks in.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yale Researchers Develop ‘Airborne’ mRNA Vaccines

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/yale-airborne-mrna-vaccine-cola/

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE is gaining national attention, the Mayo Clinic has decided to PURGE its informational page about the COVID-fighting generic drug

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-10-02-hydroxychloroquine-mayo-clinic-purge-information-censorship-covid.html

[personal profile] deathcap 2023-10-03 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Man I told myself I was going to quit reading up on this stuff because the more I read about the slow motion trainwreck, the worse my hypochondria gets.

But I just saw that the Nobel Prize in Medicine just went to...two people mainly known for their work establishing mRNA as a platform that could be used for the cootie shots.

Okay, sure, maybe mRNA [i]could[/i] be a useful vector when it's not making your body produce pathogenic proteins but come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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AI...

[personal profile] michele7 2023-10-03 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Before anyone questions what AI has to do with Covid, just hang in with me. The other day I listened to Jess on YT's Roots and Refuge Farm. Long story short, she spoke about trying to find a cinnamon roll recipe she used to use, but couldn't find the original website. She found a recipe that a first glance looked good, but the recipe had too many mistakes to have been written by a real person. It dawned on her that it was probably an AI generated post with recipe that no human bothered to look at. This led her to look at self published homesteading books, many with similar titles, covers and author photos. When she checked author names, no such person existed. She was concerned that an AI created book on wild plant foraging could not be trusted. Jess' warning to her channel followers was to make hard copies of info found on the internet since one never knows if it will still be there or if the information has been mixed up with AI. This had me thinking about covid protocols and other helpful historical health hints that may be jumbled up in AI's attempt to change history or "misinformation". Many covid posters on this site have given great suggestions from chicken soup to historical vitamin protocols. If you find something worth trying, make a hard copy and save in a binder just in case it goes "missing" online.

Peter McCullough M.D. talk New Hampshire August 20th. He puts the whole jigsaw puzzle together.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG38_53SEbU

Dr. Peter McCullough gave a talk in New Hampshire a few weeks ago (August 20th) in which he explained a whole lot of what's going on in the world today - Covid origins dating WAY back, why things are happening, who's responsible, how they screwed up, and how oddities interrelate. Watch this one, folks. It's not long and I expect it may surprise you. Whether there are demons involved, is up to you to decide. I'm only sorry I don't have a transcript with reference links. I guess those are in the book. Apologies if this was already posted.

Re: Pierre Kory series

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/reports-from-the-front-lines-of-the-530

Part 5 (linked above) -

1. blood donations are way down.

2. number of glioblastoma (brain tumor) cases is skyrocketing.

3. vaxxes are suppressing immune system for up to 6 months, and this is causing rise in sepsis.

4. EPIC, the medical record system, directly participated in the scam by intentionally marking all vaxxed as "unknown", which the analysis system automatically takes as unvaxxed.

Also from the report -
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The following is a shocking example of cognitive dissonance within a highly accomplished system physician and researcher. Taken from a patient correspondence with a colleague of mine who shared it with me:

"Hello

I hope you don’t mind me emailing you. I thought my experience yesterday might be of interest.

You may remember I told you I was going to see Doctor John Smith (ED: name changed) at Livingstone hospital (Ed: name changed) this week. I saw him yesterday, I’m a little flummoxed at what happened. I hope you don’t mind me sharing it with you as I feel it may be of interest.

I’ve attached the form below that I was sent earlier in the year from his department, which clearly shows he is looking into Brain Inflammation from the vaccine.

I had a zoom with him in May and he said he could help me he just needed to see me in person first.

After examining me yesterday, he then said he dictate his letter as he went, he then said to his microphone “I have told the patient there’s nothing I can do to help her“ when he hadn’t even begun talking to me.

When asked if he had seen other people like me with symptoms like mine following the vaccine, he said “I have seen several people who think that they have these same symptoms caused by the vaccine but we cannot say that that is the case”

He was very clear everytime he said about my symptoms he said “the patient describes her symptoms as” and always put the Patient thinks this was from the vaccine to which we have no evidence.

When asked for a diagnosis he said “I don’t think there is any point in looking backwards you need to look forward to recovery”

My friend said “Do you think it’s brain inflammation?” To which he again replied “As I said there is no point in looking backwards. And believe me only patients who listen to me will get well”

When I said “if I did have a diagnosis I will be able to be working towards better solutions as currently I’m only stabbing in the dark as I’m only guessing.” To which he stood up and offered his hand to shake and said goodbye.

But none of this rings true with the fact he’s investigating brain inflammation from the vaccine.

My concern is I do need to see someone as I do need treatment for this as my symptoms are severe upon sitting upright it’s two hours but that’s taken 9 Ketotifen daily.

I was wondering if you know of any neurologists who are experienced with working with those people who have symptoms from the vaccine?

But also, this is odd behaviour from a dr who is researching this. He’d seen my video, I was presenting the same symptoms in front of him of facial paralysis, slurred speech, throbbing head, as I’d been upright for over two hours by the time I saw him.

I’m obviously not expecting you to comment on another doctors behaviour- I just thought you might find this and the form below of interest.

Best wishes"

Re: Studies showing natural immunity vs mRNA induced immunity?

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH2mFNj0FJ8

(Anonymous) 2023-10-03 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
check their masked photo -

https://sciencetm.substack.com/

They definitely trust the vaccine to be effective.

[personal profile] weilong 2023-10-04 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's bizarre. My first thought when seeing something like that is that anybody wearing a mask in the fall of 2023 couldn't science his way out of a wet paper bag. But I guess they did some innovative work in the past, even if the application hasn't worked out so well.

Re: Peter McCullough M.D. talk New Hampshire August 20th. He puts the whole jigsaw puzzle together.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Just watched it. That is a tour de force. He speaks so clearly and he has all the names and dates right at his fingertips. Thanks for sharing this.

I had to grimace when he mentioned in passing that he tried to find out how many people have kept up with the full regimen of seven shots, and says off the cuff that most of them must be in Canada or other parts of the world (i.e. not in the US). That's what my country is known for now.

Really interesting is the breakdown of what proportions of the vaccines caused no harm, mild harm, or severe harm and death. Does anyone have any corroboration for the figures he gives?

Dylan

IM Doc and Ives Are Thoroughly Red-Pilled Now

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
"IM Doc on the Corruption of Public Health and the Breakdown of Medical Practice in the US"

He sounds heartbroken. His friend on the inside of the FDA says they are totally corrupt and the friend is trying to get out of there.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/09/im-doc-on-the-corruption-of-public-health-and-the-breakdown-of-medical-practice-in-the-us.html

In the first comment, from IM doc himself:

"I would guess there is about 10-15% of the population who are going to line up for these next boosters. That is it. I would guess 70% are inhabited with varying degrees of distrust, anger, disbelief, frustration. I would add even hate. That is what I deal with every day. And now it is spilling over into not just other vaccines but all kinds of other medical interventions. I have never dealt with this in my life. "

- Cicada Grove

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Things are getting to the point where if all the medical scientists in the world were to, in unison, peel off their ‘faces’ to reveal that they are giant insects from Neptune who have implemented a nefarious plot to eliminate our species, I probably wouldn’t flinch (‘ah, yes, it all makes sense now’). I mean, headlines are getting to look more and more like they are from a 1975 edition of The National Enquirer. Problem is: they are NOT from The National Enquirer circa 1975!

Ron M

Re: Studies showing natural immunity vs mRNA induced immunity?

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Funny you should ask, Christopher!

I just came across an article today which uses Health Canada data, published by the government itself, that seems to demonstrate the existence of VAIDS (or the waning of immune function in the multiple-foxed). This only becomes clear thanks to the WayBackMachine:
https://newsaddicts.com/74-triple-vaxxed-canadians-have-vaids-government-data-shows

Not sure that this ‘fits the bill’ but it’s the best that I can do right now.

Ron M

Live like there is no tomorrow

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
WSJ has an interesting article about how consumer spending is still going strong despite what would normally be expected with inflation and other factors. The link below may allow access by the paywall.

https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/americans-are-still-spending-like-theres-no-tomorrow-6a1d307?st=iuwisx5w54sqmmv&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The interesting factor here is the psychological indicators they are pointing to. People choosing to spend now (if they can) and not save for retirement or other longer term goals.

"“I’ve never spent that much on a trip before,” says the 35-year-old, who says the splurge was also motivated by the pandemic and a health scare. "

"Rather than funnel all their spare change into a house or retirement account, Candice and Jasmine Kelly started a bucket-list fund after attending back-to-back funerals a few months ago. "

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
What is this natin-wide? north american-wide? test over wi-fi running tomorrow afternoon? How does this impact the V-jected? I've gotten an email from the Energetic Health Institute forwarded to me about turning off devices.

Re: Peter McCullough M.D. talk New Hampshire August 20th. He puts the whole jigsaw puzzle together.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this, it does seem to pull everything together in s way that makes sense.

Monochrome Impudent Turtle

Re: Studies showing natural immunity vs mRNA induced immunity?

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks to both replies. This is directly relevant information to exactly what I asked. I'm grateful!

I much prefer reading to watching, so I'll see if Chris Martenson has a written version of this presentation.

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2023-10-04 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I can't argue turning off the devices. EMFs are toxic in their own right.

The claim is that the jabs also contained Marburg virus, e-coli, and maybe a bit of Barry Manilow in the lipid nano particles that would release their payload when exposed to a pulsating frequency of 18 Ghz. FEMA is doing a test of the emergency broadcast system across all wireless providers tomorrow.

I could be wrong, I'm not a biochemist, but this doesn't seem too likely to me. Given all the conspiracy theory later proven fact, I can't dismiss it as something from watching Halloween III, Season of the Witch at an acid party, but I'm not sold either.

If we see an outbreak of hemoragic fever in the week following tomorrows test, then I guess it is now conspiracy fact.

This might just be in the same category as the jabs containing nano tracking devices. No. Those are your cell phones, dear.

Come to think of it, anyone who has a cell phone ought to just turn it off and throw it in the freezer either way. It would be healthier physically and socially. Like I told my boss, the name of my company issued cell phone is 'Down Range.'

[personal profile] mythicprovince 2023-10-04 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well, today's Dr. Drew podcast (seen on youtube) was certainly attention getting with discussion of the on-going health reactions to the 'wonder' vaccines. Cancer seems to be quite the thing, but - is anyone outside of us doubters really listening? Or even interested in that the vaccines do indeed to not be the great thing?

After a spell of seeing face masks here and there near where I live - they have gone back into wherever the cultists keep them. One place - I even seen one of those red handkerchiefs some were into. I guess such 'feel' safe that way.

Well that's it for this week in downstate Illinois.

I can't keep from reflecting that the powers that be were able to get the stuff into about half the human race. I wonder what we will see in these next number of years...

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
just watching Candid Camera episodes from 20 years ago or so tonight and I noticed that people had gumption to say what was ridiculous and what wasn't. Has this 'gumption' and 'calling a spade a spade' been lost? Is that part of the whole subversion of the human race in this covid-a-rama nonsense. To create resistance to questioning. To create resistance to having personal gumption. To subvert individualism. I would think so.

Also I can imagine people exploding with rage today at Candid Camera episodes. It would cross the 'politically correct' lines as well.

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2023-10-04 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
If something like that is done covertly, it is most certainly not 'for the greater good.'

I could see administering MRNA as a nasal spray, but how viable and stable is it for the broadcast spraying that seems to be proposed? Hard to tell, since a lot of science reporting has all the hype of an Amway meeting. Would a good de-greaser like 409 counter the lipid nano particles? Not something I'd want to inhale either.

I suppose what these researchers need is a colony to build their own techno utopia so they can live in the beta test. I think Bikini Atoll is vacant for that purpose.

Quite fitting for the flailing religion of progress. The closest we have gotten to the Star Trek future is Senator Feinstein impersonating Capt. Christopher Pike.
Edited 2023-10-04 04:33 (UTC)

Anecdata

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Long time reader, first comment on this site. I’ve commented in the past at ADR & ecosophia Wednesday post. Anyway, just felt like I needed to share this….
Myself, husband and two children (teen and twenties) are not vaccinated and are the only ones we know not vaccinated. I suspected a woman that works with my husband is not vaccinated, but can’t be sure.

In my small sphere of ppl…my best friends mom died of lung cancer in September 2022. My next two closest friends; ones mom has brain tumors, one has lung cancer. My father in law has leukemia and we just learned this week he also has prostate cancer.

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