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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-08-27 11:11 pm

Magic Monday

BPCIt's nearly midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ hereAlso: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. 

The picture?  I've been tracing my lineages back as far as I can, and last week took my Martinist lineage back as far as
they can be documented. The next step -- and it's the last step in the entire process -- involves a fair bit of speculation, but it's speculation backed up by some evidence. It's been suggested by some historians, Marsha Keith Schuchard foremost among them, that the mysterious Knight of the Red Feather who conferred the Templar lineage on Baron von Hund, last week's honoree, was none other than Charles Stuart, the Bonnie Prince Charlie of Scottish song and story. The claim is that in the years immediately before 1745, when the House of Stuart made its last (and disastrously unsuccessful) attempt to reclaim the British throne, Charles and his inner circle of supporters used various forms of clandestine Freemasonry to raise funds, engage in espionage, and gather arms and supporters for the planned rising. Baron von Hund's initiation was an incident in that process. Martinez de Pasqually, who was honored a couple of weeks back, also claimed to have a charter signed by Charles Stuart as the basis for his occult Masonic order. So it's possible that what lies behind one of the great traditions of Western occultism is a failed political intrigue that got picked up and repurposed by a couple of canny occultists. Stranger things have happened in the history of occultism.

...And with this, the rambling tale of the odd lineages that I've inherited comes to an end. Now I'll have to think of something else to use as illustrations to Magic Mondays!

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-29 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Something has bothered me lately, and I'm really hoping you can tell me where I'm wrong. But, since 2020, we've engaged in what amounts to a massive amount of ridiculous cultural posturing over a virus; and in particular, a lot of people on the Left spent much of 2020-2022 acting as if if people did not follow along with their delusions, they would die. I'd like to quote something from Surfing the Astral Light, an essay you wrote about on The Well of Galabes:

"That’s one of the two factors behind ritual magic. The other is applied psychology, and this latter is probably the more important of the two; a vast amount of what can be done through magical practice depends utterly on the use of emotionally charged symbols, dramatic action, and an assortment of other means to reorient the unreasoning levels of the human mind."

There is also the Nocebo Effect to consider; so, a very large number of people on the political and cultural left did heavy rituals to the effect of "We're all going to die (from Covid!) without masks and lockdowns!" So, what happens when we remove the lockdowns and masks? It strikes me that this may, without invoking anything about vaccine efficacy, help explain the rise of Covid illnesses among the vaccinated, as many of them were tied to the left; and they may very well have unwittingly created an emotional link in their minds between living normally, and Covid.

However, when we consider the scale of the thing, it also seems plausible this could create a major amount of psychic energy, which could fairly easily earth out with ADE inducing vaccines; but ADE inducing vaccines which don't kick in right away, but rather only take effect once life is largely back to normal. Is it possible that what happened since 2020 essentially transformed a large swath of society into a large scale magical working aimed at their own death?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-29 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder about something else too. You said before that obsessively brooding over a possibility helps make it more likely to occur. Is it possible that the unfortunate habit many people seem to have acquired of somewhat obsessive worry about the possibility of a mass die off of the vaccinated is helping to charge this accidental working, if it is one?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-29 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear gods.

I can't help but wonder if this is what's driving the Canadian political and cultural class to embrace euthanasia. They want to die, but can't admit it; and so they are subconsciously creating a system which will sooner or later turn on them and pressure them into dying...

(Anonymous) 2023-08-29 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
If there really is a supernatural force at work here, then it may even all have been intentional. It never quite made sense to me that the True Believers could hold control of the narrative so well, except for when it came to allowing so many side effects of the vaccine to come out.

That possibility also reframes the "I'd rather die" reaction some people had to the shots in a far more troubling light: if whatever was behind it couldn't get them to take the shots, maybe it could still push some people into serving it's ends by pushing them to the opposite extreme....