ecosophia | Magic Monday

It's midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note: Any question or comment received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says.

The picture? I'm working my way through photos of my lineage, focusing on the teachers whose work has influenced me and the teachers who influenced them in turn. I'm currently tracing my Martinist lineage, and at this point we've reached a genuine man of mystery, Jacques de Livron Joachim de la Tour de la Casa Martinez de Pasqually. Nobody knows when Martinez de Pasqually was born or where he came from; what's known about him is that he showed up in southern France in 1754, taught an extraordinarily rich system of Gnostic esoteric philosophy and practice to a circle of pupils that included Louis-Claude de St.-Martin and Jean-Baptiste Willermoz, and then sailed away to the Caribbean in 1772 and reportedly died there two years later. The image I've posted is one of the very few portraits of the man.

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Good day JMG,

last week there was a discussion about the persistence of demonic residues even after a former practitioner actively distances themselves from the practice, prompted by a poster that used to be involved in "demonolatry"...

as someone who has recently started researching esoteric topics and discovered magic monday last week, I was hoping you could clear something up for me. I recently found the texts compiled by nick land's defunct research project ccru, specifically the stuff about the "numogram"

the latter is, to my understanding, a variant of numerological practice that replaces the 1-10 system with a 0-9 system, with implicitly feminine-telluric undertones, which is interesting, but I don't yet have enough knowledge to understand the true significance of this shift

my main concern, however, is the fact that this system specifically references "demons" and is employed to practice "lemurian time sorcery". this leaves me somewhat hesitant to delve too deeply into it, given your response to last week's inquiry about demonic influences and your post on Lemuria as possibly the civilization that precipitated the fall from Eden.

my main question is the following, are you at all familiar with the system I mentioned and if so, how safe would you deem it - is the reference to demons and Lemuria purely stylistic, or is it substantial and therefore a cause for concern?

Yes, I'm familiar with Nick Land's magic and I have a pretty fair collection of CCRU material. I would never use it in practice, though. One of the things that I find least pleasant about the chaos magic scene, and Land was very much part of that, is the way it gravitates so reliably toward the demonic and the antihuman; partly that's because it attracts so many would-be edgelords, but there may be deeper and more dangerous factors at work as well.

thanks for the response! is there any other numerological system you would endorse?

The classic English method, which I've discussed in a series of posts:

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/tag/numerology

It's always worked well for me.

Are 'edgelords' simply the internet version of the shock-yo-mama crowd, or does that term also refer to some metaphysical role these chaotic wannabes are aspiring towards? I can't tell whether it just sounds like it was made up by and for LARPing enthusiasts, or whether it sounds more like something Crowley would have minted. Actually, I guess those two aren't really all that different!

— Christophe

I had to ask some younger readers once what "edgelord" meant, which tells you just how far out of date I am! They said it was a derogatory term for people who preen themselves on how edgy they are.

What is your favourite thing in nick lands CCRU material?

J.L.Mc12

The fact that I don't practice it.

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