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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-07-18 11:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 102

fairy talesAs we near the end of the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] frittermywig 2023-07-21 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
This was being shared around Twitter tonight, and I thought it might be of interest to Ecosophians!
jabbed by sign
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] tritumi 2023-07-21 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Me and my fellow Scorpions for the win!

I am not talented in astrological analysis whatsoever, but given my sign's predilection for getting at the underside of a subject, rejection of th jab by a majority is not particularly surprising.

Brave Leo in the van. Sometimes bravery comes at a cost.
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
That is cool.

Who'd have thought there'd be such a difference?

The Ninth Mouse
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] scotlyn 2023-07-21 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting, since none of those figures are anywhere near as high as original estimates of 90% rates.

Also, as a Sun in Leo, it seems I'm a 30%-er.

Still, I have to wonder why Leo features at the top of the conformance list, all the same.
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-07-21 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that something as simplistic as Sun sign is actually this statistically significant here-- I am skeptical of these numbers (but then again I'm a Virgo so of course I am ;⁠-⁠) )-- but certainly Leos have a reputation for wanting to lead the way.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pleased to see that my fellow Virgos performed above average ;)

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Another sun-in-leo here who is in the 30%. We are prone to having our ego stroked and there was a lot of "being the good person", loyalty to community, doing it for others wrapped up in the manipulation toolset. Still, I'm surprised by this.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2023-07-21 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. Of course I do not think I would have any trouble fitting the bill as a high functioning autistic as well. So there is that.

It does look like fire signs in general are at the top of the list.

Another thing, this survey is in Salt Lake City, Utah. Fairly high Mormon population. I think their take rate was lower than average.
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] athaia 2023-07-21 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe because they framed it as a heroic act to get vaccinated - you're saving lives, y'know? That's a noble thing to do.

I'm not a Scorpio, but I have Pluto conjunct my ascendant, and Uranus in the first house. I'd be much more interested in people's Uranus placement than in their Sun sign, tbh.
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Weird, right? I'm right behind you as an Aquarius, apparently one of only 33%.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I read a 'normie' newspaper article about the psychological profiles of each sign that made them make the 'right choice' (Leo for the win) and 'poor choice' (Scorpio for the win).

It was in the vein of those online news articles 'What Does The Brady Bunch Look Like Now' or 'Should You Marry a Binge Eater' type of blah...
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] ari_ormstunga 2023-07-22 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. We'll see.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Discernment was a word which kept coming up for me in my interactions with various compliers in my social circle. Luckily I was never pressured by them to conform, but I could see up-close their confusion, and I always thought to myself, if only I could tell them, in a word, discernment. Sun signs can be misleading, but I like the archetypes associated with them. I am a discerning Virgo, and proud of it… and I’ve always gotten along well with Scorpios.
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
I never liked my astrological birth sign until now. Stupid little stingers in a tail ... ugh.

A Water Rabbit, too.

W.R.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] brendhelm 2023-07-23 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This is actually really interesting and kind of correlates with what you'd expect.

Leo is associated with luxuries and crowd-pleasing, so of course they'd be more likely to take it.

Aquarius, though Leo's polar opposite and associated with iconoclasm, is also associated with science and technology and would be more likely to take it on that basis.

Aries and Sagittarius, as fire signs, would be more likely to accept the risk. Kind of surprising, since these are probably the most "I do what I want" signs, but they also are associated with not wanting to be chained down, and would be likely to have gotten it simply for the sake of getting their privileges back.

Scorpio, of course, is associated with deep investigation and wanting to get down to the bottom of things; they're the most likely to have been skeptical from the beginning. Virgo is going to want the data first. Capricorns tend conservative and would be more likely to distrust it on the basis of it being largely untested technology. Moreover, those three signs don't have as much aversion to self-sacrifice as some of the others (this is also likely why Pisces is fourth-lowest).
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