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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-07-18 11:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 102

fairy talesAs we near the end of the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-19 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you Liam, I really appreciate your sharing your story. I would say much the same as you did. One difference is, I did lose family -- a whole branch of it-- and I also lost one of my closest and oldest friends. They all went Vaxx Nazi to the max. Although I have compassion for them, and I wish them well, whenever I think of them what rises in me is not affection, but disgust. Just disgust.

In general I am warily optimistic, however, because I do see a small but highly dedicated and growing group of organizations doing excellent work for medical freedom. We are not alone, our ranks are growing. While there have been disappointments, there have been numerous successful lawsuits and also many effective efforts to block anti-freedom legislation and to lobby for pro-freedom legislation. We don't hear about it because of the censorship. Washington DC just dropped its covid jab mandate for school children thanks in large part to heavy pressure from parents and from Children's Health Defense (RFK Jr's organization).

I too think Steiner was onto something. I have long ago concluded that while much can be explained by RFK (his book The Real Anthony Fauci) and by Desmet (mass formation psychosis) and so many others, there are more than human dynamics to this madness, and to these battles for the future of humanity.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-20 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
Re what you said about losing one of your oldest friends, I had the same experience and reacted the same as you, feeling disgust.

I'd been friends with this person for over 40 years and we'd gone through a lot together, but when covid kicked off he turned into someone I no longer recognised. Initially he became meek, fearful and paranoid, leaving his delivered shopping out in the sun for 24 hours and then wiping it all with bleach. His daily walks, the only time he left the house, were 'wary'. He and his wife turned into hypochondriacs and called paramedics more than once, for issues like wheezing or a cough. That developed into becoming a mask disciple, followed by becoming a vaccine disciple. He started being quite vicious about anyone not following the approved narrative, not realising he was talking about me and my partner who refused to follow orders. I no longer see him as the same person and, given some of his more recent attitudes, have decided to not contact him again.

It does seem that a lot of people were completely consumed by the narrative, to the point that they've turned into someone unrecognisable.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-20 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a number of people with whom I was friends for years, who I can no longer look at the same way.

A lot of them have tried to "reconnect" with me now that the "pandemic" is "over", and I'm just like, why? Why do you want to "reconnect" with me? By your own judgements, I'm one of those selfish, ignorant, rule-breaking, misinformed, anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists you were vilifying not so long ago. And even if I didn't support Trump, I hang around with people who did, people who you also hate and despise for their "ignorance" and "racism". Why do you want anything to do with ME? I'm not one of you. I used to think we had things in common, but now I know how different we are. Why are you still trying to "reconnect"?!