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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-07-18 11:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 102

fairy talesAs we near the end of the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-19 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, more or less.

When the vaccine was first being talked about, my thought process was, "eh, I probably don't need it, but I'll wait and see, maybe the risk-benefit will pan out in favor of taking it, let's get a bit more info first." That thought process was, I think, a rational one.

But then, at some point, I realized that no, I wasn't going to "wait and see." At some point I realized that I had a deep, visceral aversion to those shots, and that there was, in fact, no way on earth that I would ever agree to take them, for any reason. I realized that I was, in fact, willing lose all my employment, be ostracized by everyone, and I live in my damn car if needs be, rather than comply.

There wasn't a single moment of clarity, but more like a dawning realization that yes - this is, in fact, the hill I will die on.

My best guess of my own resistance is that it's related to growing up with an abusive parent. What triggered my refusal, I think, was the bone-deep knowledge that when someone in a position of authority pushes you that hard to do something, and when the reasons given why you're supposed to do it keep changing, and when people are being manipulated with fear, and when those in authority are willing to stoke hatred against and encourage persecution of those who do not comply - well, then you know that what you are being told to do is WRONG (or, at the bare minimum, not in your best interest). Because if it was a good thing, they wouldn't have to abuse you that badly.

The whole thing just....stank. There was something deeply noxious about it that set off my alarm bells, and made me recoil in fear and loathing from the whole program.

If there was something supernatural at work, my reaction makes sense. Somehow, I sensed that what was going on was fundamentally wrong - that it was manipulative, abusive, and cruel, or was orchestrated by someone, or some thing, that was manipulative, abusive, and cruel - and that I must avoid it at all cost.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-19 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
This post pretty much sums up my experience as well, particularly:
My best guess of my own resistance is that it's related to growing up with an abusive parent. What triggered my refusal, I think, was the bone-deep knowledge that when someone in a position of authority pushes you that hard to do something, and when the reasons given why you're supposed to do it keep changing, and when people are being manipulated with fear, and when those in authority are willing to stoke hatred against and encourage persecution of those who do not comply - well, then you know that what you are being told to do is WRONG (or, at the bare minimum, not in your best interest). Because if it was a good thing, they wouldn't have to abuse you that badly.

Thanks for articulating so clearly.

Jed