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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2023-07-18 11:46 am

Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 102

fairy talesAs we near the end of the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
And different areas of focus for me too.

I'm not the crusading 'left brain' warrior I used to be - I'm turning/turned into something different.

Something more like I was back when I was a delinquent anarchist.

Coming full circle.

But more dangerous :)

The Ninth Mouse

Re: Your Government Loves You

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
Man that’s dark

Re: Your Government Loves You

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There was another bizarre article back in 2020, with a similar title - "Healthy Child Dies of COVID" or some such.

I actually clicked through to the article, and read it. The "healthy" child in question was obese, and, according to the text - but not the headline - of the article, probably had un-diagnosed diabetes, because he died when his blood sugar spiraled out of control and they couldn't get it fixed before it killed him. At best, he died of un-diagnosed metabolic disorder probably bought on by obesity, and exacerbated by a virus that wouldn't have killed a healthy anybody.

But the headline said "Healthy Child". Madness.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the poster of the above comment, and I just had another thought about what the common thread in many of the list items might be.....

What if a lot of it comes down to pattern-recognition skills?

Many people have been abused, or lied to by the medical industry, or encountered some other authoritarian system, or studied history/sociology/political science/psychology, or seen a psy-op before - but not everyone recognizes it when they see it again. In fact, many of us were shocked that people went back for more shots after being injured by the first (or got shots despite past negative experiences with the medical-industrial complex), or dumbfounded that academics couldn't see the sorts of things they'd supposedly studied happening in real life right in front of them, or that people with medical backgrounds couldn't look at the real data and SEE what was there, or surprised by how many artists and "rebels" who claimed to be questioners didn't question when it mattered, or people who claimed to have faith didn't have any when faith was finally truly needed, etc. The fact is, having seen, experienced, and/or learned about something wrong and crazy only helps if you have the pattern recognition skills to spot it again the second time around.

Many people seem to lack the fundamental ability to see a long-standing pattern when it crops up in a new context, and it seems like the people who saw through Cootie-palooza were very often the ones who could say, "I've seen this before in a different context; the details are different, but I recognize the same PATTERN in a different setting."
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] scotlyn 2023-07-21 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting, since none of those figures are anywhere near as high as original estimates of 90% rates.

Also, as a Sun in Leo, it seems I'm a 30%-er.

Still, I have to wonder why Leo features at the top of the conformance list, all the same.

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, so we're the people who don't fall for "It's different this time."

Re: Your Government Loves You

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember seeing multiple such articles, and yes, it was totally surreal. I can't shake the feeling that people simply forgot, for a few years, that death could happen without Covid.
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[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-07-21 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's no problem. For now I'll phrase it as: "B.P. has stomach and gastro issues that doctors have no idea how to treat, and also suffers from an old injury sustained in a traffic accident; may she be blessed, may her suffering be eased, and may she be be fully healed of her stomach and gastro problems."

Please feel free to edit my phrasing. You might also take a look at the FAQ if you haven't already. The main point if like to stress is that the way to ensure somebody with long term issues remains on the list is to send updates about once a month. Good luck to BP!
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Youngest Case of Alzheimer's ever

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-07-21 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-diagnose-the-youngest-case-of-alzheimers-ever-reported

In China a 19 year old has been diagnosed with the youngest case of Alzheimer's disease ever reported. Mysteriously, he lacks gene malfunction normally associated with young cases of Alzheimer's. Apparently symptoms began 2 years ago. Hmmm... What unusual new factor could have entered his life around that time...
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] tunesmyth 2023-07-21 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that something as simplistic as Sun sign is actually this statistically significant here-- I am skeptical of these numbers (but then again I'm a Virgo so of course I am ;⁠-⁠) )-- but certainly Leos have a reputation for wanting to lead the way.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I read a 'normie' newspaper article about the psychological profiles of each sign that made them make the 'right choice' (Leo for the win) and 'poor choice' (Scorpio for the win).

It was in the vein of those online news articles 'What Does The Brady Bunch Look Like Now' or 'Should You Marry a Binge Eater' type of blah...

Re: Your Government Loves You

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read that a lot of amoral computer whiz kids get involved in doing hacking type stuff for the 'agencies.'

I"ve got to believe whoever put this article together was amoral. And possessed of a very dark sense of humour.
The types that believe nothing but profit by believing nothing.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Another sun-in-leo here who is in the 30%. We are prone to having our ego stroked and there was a lot of "being the good person", loyalty to community, doing it for others wrapped up in the manipulation toolset. Still, I'm surprised by this.

Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2023-07-21 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. Of course I do not think I would have any trouble fitting the bill as a high functioning autistic as well. So there is that.

It does look like fire signs in general are at the top of the list.

Another thing, this survey is in Salt Lake City, Utah. Fairly high Mormon population. I think their take rate was lower than average.
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Re: Astrology and the Jab

[personal profile] athaia 2023-07-21 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe because they framed it as a heroic act to get vaccinated - you're saving lives, y'know? That's a noble thing to do.

I'm not a Scorpio, but I have Pluto conjunct my ascendant, and Uranus in the first house. I'd be much more interested in people's Uranus placement than in their Sun sign, tbh.
Edited 2023-07-21 18:33 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
In-N-Out burger chain to ban employees in 5 states from wearing masks, memo reveals

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/in-n-out-burger-chain-to-ban-employees-in-5-states-from-wearing-masks-memo-reveals/

Re: The Epiphany (A reflection thread on pandemic choices)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That's another way of putting it, yes

Re: Your Government Loves You

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"that people simply forgot, for a few years, that death could happen without Covid."

Or that respiratory viruses have always killed people who were already old and/or sick - and where by "killed" I mean "hastened the inevitable." The flu "kills" many such people every year.

At some point, we decided to ignore the difference between "virus slightly hastened the end of life like they've always done" and "virus struck down a healthy person like a car accident or bolt of lightening."

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Weird, right? I'm right behind you as an Aquarius, apparently one of only 33%.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the public service announcements and the contacts, Liam. I’ve been drawing attention to Health Canada’s despotic plans to all and sundry over the past couple of weeks. I guess they learned from Pandemic 1.0 (don’t allow any alternatives to the ‘shot’ to be legal or available) and are determined to bankrupt all competitors to big pharma. Besides, ill people may be depressed and therefore easier to control. I predict a huge underground economy popping up if this Bill passes. You’re right about the bureaucrats, of course: they are the ‘deep state’ and run the show. They are a cancer that must/will be excised from the body politic.

Yes, the 15-minute cities horror-show is a creeping menace in Toronto and so many other cities across the nation. Given their apathy, I suspect that by the time most people wake up to the reality it will be either (a) virtually upon them or (b) already a fait accompli (like a python that slips its coils around a sleeping animal; by the time it starts to squeeze and the animal wakes up, there is no escape). But like any complex system there are weaknesses – and there are those who know about them and have been posting videos aplenty about many cheap and easy ways of ‘putting a spanner into the works’ / ‘pouring sand into the gears’. Besides, as evil and powerful as they are, the elites (parasites) are arrogant, stupid, and live in a world of make-believe where abstractions and public relations are more ‘real’ than concrete reality (case in point: Ukraine/Russia). Well, reality is going to hit them like a 2x4 square between the eyes! All the same, things look grim in the short-term.

Honk! Honk!

Ron M

Re: Your Government Loves You

[personal profile] coyote_girl 2023-07-21 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Like the push for the worthless flu shot that has been going on for years. 35,000 people a year die from the flu they say. How many of those people already had one foot in the grave? Doctors rack up a far higher body count on healthy people than that each year.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think this is a good idea. Authoritarianism is bad whether or not it's supporting causes we like...

Re: Youngest Case of Alzheimer's ever

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I've certainly noticed memory problems in a lot of people I know. I sincerely hope this is not the start of a wave of serious illnesses...

Re: ADE, The Next Generation

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is the result of the Demonic Hypothesis, then I guess the most likely timeframe for the widespread collapse in order, mass death, etc you predicted will be starting in November. Which is, of course, when the northern hemisphere normally has flu season start.....

Re: Astrology and the Jab

(Anonymous) 2023-07-21 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pleased to see that my fellow Virgos performed above average ;)

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