ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 99

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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I currently work as an (unvaccinated) nurse at Stanford. What you say is completely true however the issues you highlight are true throughout all hospitals. It's just incubated in the west and spreads. Although it appears to me that now the eastern coastal cities, in their eagerness to be seen as harbingers of "progress" are ahead in this incubation and exportation process of horrid ideas.

Congrats on staying unvaxed! Indeed, those issues are nationwide.

In my family, if any of us are in a hospital as a patient unable to stand up and roll an IV stand to a nurses' station, that patient should have an advocate 24/7 bedside. It's saved two members of my family from dying in minutes after being grossly overdosed. Once due to a ward change and medications' computer entry error by a very tired nurse on a Thanksgiving weekend, the other by a unqualified ER "maintenance crew" resident proscribing a lethal dose of Fentanyl, more than the amount to stop a heart to hook up a heart-lung machine in an operating room and, oh yeah, proscribed and administered only because that "senior" resident did not want to bother to call in a geriatric care resident with the computer codes to proscribe a slightly more expensive medicIne that was already proven to work great for that patient.

Then, the Stanford Hospital's overworked "pain team" doing patient ward corridors fast walk-by's rarely entering patients' rooms. After a one hour telephone conversation with one team leader after midnight to get more effective pain meds for a patient stuck in ICU (thanks to her heart being stopped in the ER), after I'd done my own research and thus got the order for patient's first ever dose of CBD oil which I suggested to the groggy pain team leader after nothing else used had truly worked. It worked like a charm. In less than 15 minutes the patient had no pain an fell into a deep REM sleep. How the ICU nurse giggled when she opened the blister package and the whole room instantly smelled of hemp. She'd never dispensed it before in her entire nursing career.

I know a lot of nurses who have that same practice of 24/7 advocacy for their close friends and family because innocent mistakes will happen at every hospital, ever more mistakes or less than ideal care when staff are overworked or hog-tied to a computer list of The Pre-Approved Treatments. The extra pair of eyes and hands of the "visitor" are there to support the patient and the medical staff, too. Often all that's needed is just a nearby set of kind hands to smooth sheets, get fresh water, or give foot rubs - simple tasks hospital nurses rarely have time to do. Glad to see many of the new patient rooms at Stanford have sofa-beds for visitors - a very good start for better patient care.

W.R.

Ten thousand times yes. My family has a similar policy: everybody who goes to a hospital-- whether outpatient or inpatient-- has a minder or a tag-team of minders, to prevent horrible accidents or on-purposes from happening-- it's also helpful for protection against the inevitable future billing fraud. We've had too many bad experiences to leave it to chance. Double-check medications and dosages, and keep time/date notes with all the details you can manage: what kind of room were they in, how many meals did the hospital provide, what drugs were given and when, which doctors came in, when, and what did they do? What was the room number? My mother once spent months fighting billing fraud about a private room, when she'd been sharing with two other people-- she won because she forced the hospital to divulge the number of the "private room" they were charging her $$$ for... and was able to prove that this was actually a hospital office, not a patient room at all.

One family member in particular has to have a power-of-attorney-equipped bodyguard every time he's in a hospital (and that's been frequent!), because somewhere in the bowels of his medical records, it notes that he was once on seizure meds. It does not note that the side-effects of those meds were so awful he'd rather die than go back on them, because the doc who helped him wean off them would not (could not) go on record for that, it was so risky, and also doesn't note that he has recovered from the injury that caused the seizures, and no longer needs them. So every. dang. time. he ends up in a hospital, some fracking neurologist gets called in because of that decades-old record, and they try to put him back on the meds. The family has nearly come to blows with hospital staff over it, and on at least one occasion has had to call in a pastor and a lawyer as reinforcements. Totally, completely bonkers. These are not people who believe in informed consent or patient agency.

And that's before you even get to actually *innocent* mistakes...

Nearly lost a very young relative after a totally routine tonsillectomy, because they prescribed an adult dose of opiate painkiller to a six-year-old. Same would have happened to another child in the family if the parent hadn't opened the bottle at the pharmacy, looked at the pills, and been like: are you sure these are right? I don't think the kid can swallow anything that big... Always check, double-check, triple-check. This is the internet age-- you can look up the medication and verify that the pills are the right color, shape, size, and dosage for the patient's weight.

And don't go to hospitals alone if you can help it. If you don't have a team, now's a good time to set one up!

Medical errors are the third leading cause of death, prior to the plandemic.

This is probably under-reported as well for very few hospital deaths are blatantly obvious medical errors - after all the person is in hospital for another malady and the hospital certainly doesn't want to admit its negligence.

Post plandemic, I wouldn't be surprised if 'medical errors' jumps a spot or two upwards when you include the vex effects.

The worst thing in all of this is the us v. them dynamic where the doctor/nurse/pharmacist/computer coders/administrators/insurers side constantly closes ranks to hide errors, both the innocent and gross negligence - and gets away with it thanks to uneducated patients and their families who all too often meekly "trust the experts." I used to wonder why this is until the bat flu porn quickly became so effective in 2020. The Asche and Milgram experiments prove over 60% of humans will just go along with any "expert" plopped in front of them.

The USA system has already run down the statute of limitations clock on malpractice on many of the bat flu "assisted suicides" by intubation and use of deadly drugs like remdesivir 2020 - 2022.

when a close relative gave me the "you're unvaxxed so i won't drive you to the hospital" argument back in the day i just said "thank you and please don't." unless i have a broken bone or a gunshot wound, i want nothing to do with western "medicine."

I can attest. I also have the same policy with my family. My grandmother recently Past period when she was in the hospital all they did was take a covid test even though she has a history of congestive heart failure. No one thought to run Cardiac tests. I was unfortunately on the other side of the country when this occured. Their thoughts were "oh well, she's 94 anyway".

Absolutely do not trust your loved ones to those who clock in and out for a paycheck.

This entire thread is a good example of why when my older brother talks about the medical-industrial complex, he always says "those medical people" the way someone would say "cannibals", "child molesters", or "devil worshipers".

Sounds about right. I mean, sometimes you have to deal with them... but we'd all rather not unless it's life-threatening, and even then it's risky.

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